Posted on 03/09/2007 2:30:28 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
I actually like Vegas -- other than NYC -- it's the best place in the country to do business. But a lot of folks arrive there with some very strange ideas in their head.
Truthfully, I don't see a lot of inappropriate behavior on a day to day basis. I see people in business acting very businesslike and professional and folks in bars acting as if they've had a few drinks.
Although, truth be told, recently I've gotten a couple prim little smiles, and even once a barely audible mumbled thank you
Chivalry isn't dead in Texas.
Here, women are appreciative of opened doors and most men are gentlemen.
What does "behaving better" mean, exactly?
That's a great question. I was reading some Mark Steyn on another thread, and found this fascinating bit:
"But, in fact, 'the people' were a large part of the problem. Then as now, citizens of advanced democracies are easily distracted. The 18th- century Church of England preached 'a tepid kind of moralism' disconnected both from any serious faith and from the great questions facing the nation. It was a sensualist culture amusing itself to death: Wilberforce goes to a performance of Don Juan, is shocked by a provocative dance, and is then further shocked to discover the rest of the audience is too blasé even to be shocked. The Paris Hilton of the age, the Prince of Wales, was celebrated for having bedded 7,000 women and snipped from each a keepsake hair. Twenty-five per cent of all unmarried females in London were whores; the average age of a prostitute was 16; and many brothels prided themselves on offering only girls under the age of 14."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1798364/posts
To paraphrase Yogi Berra, the good ol' days ain't what they used to be.
That's certainly true.
The Victorian era produced some very odd behavior.
The good ol' days?
Not so odd, when you look at human behavior over time. Unfortunately.
It's all relative. Comic book fans speak of a 'Golden Age' of comics, a 'Silver Age,' a 'Bronze Age.' etc.
One comic professional at a major convention suddenly snapped it into perspective for a lot of fans by reminding them that their own 'Golden Age' was probably when they were 12! Hahaha!
London had all of these folks flooding in from the countryside -- basically displaced by the industrial revolution. Life became very cheap and folks became numbed to the most appalling effects of poverty.
Yes, life in Victorian London was appalling for much of the population. Babies fed cheap gin in their bottles to keep them quiet, poor working men pawning the families meager possessions from week to week, whole families crammed into tiny rooms, illiteracy, out-of-wedlock births, hunger, disease, rampant prostitution, and on and on.
But for many people who didn't live in London or weren't on the bottom of the social rung, live was pretty good. And, yes, and they were the ones who wrote the histories.
And, that's why the "olden days" often look better than today. Because those who had the time, resources and interest wrote history.
Illiterate, hungry folks coughing up a lung from TB and crammed into tiny rooms with drunken kids crawling zig-zags across a cold floor tend not to sit down and write a whole lot.
Henry Mayhew wrote a good book on it that is available free online The London Poor, I believe it is called.
Not acting cheap.
ACting like your company, your affection, your love are worthy of respect.
Do you really not know?
I found it. Thanks, I'll read it.
If a thing/concept isn't carefully defined, then it can't be discussed, defended or analyzed. If it remains this vague concept or ideal, then any discussion about it is pretty meaningless.
You might want to check out this as well.
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/675
Do you see how far our society has fallen? It used to be that sex outside marriage was shameful. Now, you can write a book criticizing sex outside *relationships* and be told you're a moralizing prude and butt out.
Liberals. The acid reflux of our societal digestive system.
Do you see how far our society has fallen? It used to be that sex outside marriage was shameful.
Discussing sex outside of marriage was shameful. I suspect that folks had sex outside of marriage as far back as 1940, maybe even 1939.
Some men are in a constant search for sex. It's up to the woman to tell him "no".
Just like some women are in a constant search to spend money and it's up to the man to tell her "no".
I'm not saying I support this arrangement but it seems to be the way life works, probably because some women like to treat men's money the same way some men like to treat women's bodies.
Why am I skeptical of that comment? I have seen it around here a few times, but I have never seen a woman (pretty or ugly) giving bad looks to anyone who holds a door open for her.
Speaking for myself, I am very appreciative when anyone holds a door open for me, or for holding elevator doors and waiting for me to come in. I always smile – big smile – and I thank the person for being kind to me. In return I get smiles back and “you're welcome,” and “it's my pleasure,” etc.
Such courtesy makes me feel good. I've done the same thing for guys if am the first to open the door – even waited a few seconds until they reach to the door. If am the first to reach the door and someone is behind me, (man or woman) I hold the door for them. Life is good.
I've never personally encountered it, nor ever even seen it. Strange.
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