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To: robertpaulsen

No, I do not see a pattern there. Free speech is free speech without limit. Yelling fire in a theater is not free speech, that is exciting a riot. Threatening to kill our President is not free speech, that is treason.

Unreasonable searches and seizure are well defined.

A speedy trial is as soon as reasonably possible.

Excessive fines are more than what is considered reasonable for the crime. Excessive punishments are more than what would be considered reasonable for the crime.

Sure, here we could parse free speech, unreasonable, speedy, and excessive. But in the 2nd Amendment, there is no slot for the parsing of "the right of the people..."

Gun grabbers will parse the meaning of "the people." And I see you seek to deny that part as well.

That's the pattern I see.


998 posted on 03/10/2007 10:47:38 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner
"But in the 2nd Amendment, there is no slot for the parsing of "the right of the people..."

All "people"? Illegals, non-citizens, terrorists, those on parole, felons, the insane, 4-year-olds ... even Negroes? There's plenty to parse.

What does "to keep" mean? "To bear"? What are "arms"? What is "an infringement"? Plenty more to parse.

And all this is no different that what we do with any other amendment or the body of the U.S. Constitution itself. Yet you think you've discovered some massive conspiracy by "gun grabbers" because they want to parse the Holy Grail of all amendments .... "THE SECOND". (sound of angel chorus)

1,026 posted on 03/11/2007 8:21:54 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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