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To: Anti-Bubba182
I posted this in the other thread:

For a moment, let's pretend that the government is trying to secure our borders, and that somehow the bad guys still got through (their justification for this). For the people who love the government and anything that increases the size and scope of the government, and who would be cheerleaders for these types of things, stop and ask yourselves these three questions:

1)Do you feel comfortable with a liberal White House having access to these types of tools.

2)Do you feel comfortable with the federal government knowing what you buy, when you buy, where you buy, i.e. things such as subscriptions to hunting magazines, self defense courses, ammunition, books and magazines that would clearly label you as a very independent person (i.e. Conservative), information your travel (easy to guess if you're driving somewhere and buy gas and food every so often), etc. A gun grabber wouldn't have to try and get the records of who belongs to the NRA, they'll easily know by the transactions you make.

3)Being that many of you are veterans, and you've probably gotten the letters from the VA about them losing laptops with potentially your data, not to mention all of the stories we hear (God only knows what we don't hear) of government employees losing laptops with all kinds of data, do you feel comfortable about the government having even more information about your life, with the potential to lose even more information about you?

Now we all know that there are companies that have gathered all kinds of information about us already - they sell this information to marketers, store chains, etc., who use the information to target their advertising to us. They know what we subscribe to. They know how much we spend on gas, what stores we shop at, etc., and chances are the government does have some access to this information (they do have to pay for it though). This would go way beyond that.

Things like this lay out the groundwork for all kinds of government abuse. It basically allows the government to build a profile on everybody (they already have them, but not to this extent). This information can and will be shared with all kinds of groups, from your local city and county government and law enforcement to who knows what.

A city like Chicago would love to be able to have this information - if you subscribe to Handgun magazine, you're gonna set off some flags living in a city like Chicago. The list goes on.
6 posted on 03/08/2007 6:50:46 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
" credit-card purchases, telephone or Internet details, medical records, travel and banking information. "

Seems like another specious preventitive measure. If illegal Mexicans can survive and thrive completely outside the system, using stolen identities, why can't Muslim terrorists?

7 posted on 03/08/2007 6:54:45 PM PST by Mr J (All IMHO.)
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To: af_vet_rr
The list goes on.
(God only knows what we don't hear)

Is that the point where a hero arrives?

Still looking for the hero......
still not seeing that hero!
can I get 25 for the congress critter,
55 for the senator, you want a veep?
dear dear me.....that's gonna cost .......
Thank God they missed.....
but they're certain to show up again...
excuse me, it's dem dang black hellicopters again
and hitlery is riding shotgun.......
Calvary Ho!

12 posted on 03/08/2007 7:01:36 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: af_vet_rr

USE CASH not credit cards. It will make you almost *disappear* from their wandering eyes.


18 posted on 03/08/2007 7:39:01 PM PST by B4Ranch (You're in America now. Here we speak English.)
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