Posted on 03/08/2007 5:50:47 PM PST by areafiftyone
National security is the prime issue in this war brought by the Seventh-Century death cult.
Reagan appointed one pro-choice justice. That was J. O'Conner and it was on bad advice from Meese and Schultz.
I've told you this before, but you keep ignoring the historic facts and instead post falsehoods.
Anthony Kennedy was pro-life when Reagan nominated him. He received endorsements from ever major right to life group in the nation. After several years on the high court, J.Kennedy switched and became pro-choice.
No POTUS, including Reagan could have known how their appointments will turn out after 10-20 years. Eisenhower wasn't satisfied with Earl Warren, Nixon wasn't satisfied with Warren Burger and Bush41 wasn't satisfied with David Souter.
At this point in time, no one knows how CJ Roberts and J. Alito will turn out after 10-20 years on the SCOTUS.
If Arlen Specter and Ted Kennedy hadn't fought Reagan on Robert Bork and won that battle, Roe v Wade might have been overturned by today.
hello, can you take me off of the Rudy ping list...it's just piling up on my computer and I don't know how to delete them after I read them. I can just read various posts from the forum. Thank you, Fabian
You must feel like Custer surrounded by all those Sioux.
The only FReeper who ever called Reagan a RINO ...
I was just told last night by another Oklahoman that Rudy has NO chance in Oklahoma. Have their been any polls there yet?
Okay. Understood. A few FReepers misuse and overuse the term, RINO. I don't consider Bill Bennett and Michelle Malkin to be RINO`s. Wouldn't label Michael Medved a RINO either. And Ann Coulter did nothing wrong at CPAC and all the so-called conservatives who are viciously attacking her, need to cool their jets.
However, Rudy Giuliani is a liberal and a RINO.
Reagan Man self appointed deemer of the RINO label ....sarc
...LOL...I would call him a moderate but hey, that is just me....I'm too old to spoil for a fight these days....I'll just chime in innocently when the urge strikes....have a great night
he had no real record on the subject:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/27/politics/27kennedy.html?ei=5090&en=f62f30b3f055c117&ex=1277524800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
"Justice Kennedy's constitutional views on the matter were largely unknown, since his 12 years on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit had brought no major abortion cases"
the vetting process on Kennedy - was poor. republican senators like jesse helms, red flagged him. Reagan sent him up anyway.
"Anthony Kennedy was pro-life when Reagan nominated him. He received endorsements from ever major right to life group in the nation.
So I guess Pro-lifers can be wrong?
As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults.
Duncan Hunter's campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/
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Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Transcript of video below.
Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?
Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."
Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:
Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."
Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."
Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"
Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."
ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"
Rudy Giuliani: "I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."
Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."
Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!
End clip.
Nothing in that NY Times article challenges what I posted.
You selectively left off one critical remark by Robert Bork.
Mr. Bork said: "[Kennedy] had indicated that he would overturn Roe v. Wade, and then changed his vote. He was expected to be different."
And that gets right back to the original point I was making.
So, you went around and around and around, and you offered nothing to challenge my post. Again. No one knows how a justice will turn out 10-20 years down the road. That includes Bush43`s two picks, CJ Roberts and J. Alito.
No. I just know how to read the political facts and analyze them accordingly. Calling Rudy a liberal and a RINO are two facts of political life. You on the other hand have been shilling for Rudy for the last year on FR. So, we know where you stand.
No Problem Fabian. Actually Its just on Your FreeRepublic account site not your whole computer. But I don't think you can delete anything on FR except your freepmail. I wish there was a way of doing that myself. But no problem taking you off! :-)
Rudy was not undergoing treatment for cancer during the last election.
Rudy a liberal and a RINO are two facts of political life
No it's not. it's mainstream Republicans, moderates and libertatrions taking thr wheel from the socons who have so proretized abortton .guns and gays they have left the budjet...the borders...even the WOT in chaos. It's time for a prez with real competence and experience in getting things accomplished using conservartive means...like Rudy and Rimney,
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