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1 posted on 03/08/2007 12:35:25 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Sweeping government programs are all well and good

Actually, sweeping government programs are pretty much all bad. In fact, you could say that just about any shortage of workers is caused significantly by two "sweeping government programs": government education and abortion.

(Yes, I know it's a stretch calling abortion a government program, but I was going with the trope. Think figuratively!)

3 posted on 03/08/2007 12:37:57 PM PST by Tax-chick (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.)
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I work in IT program management. I started as a programmer and firmly believe that my technical skills make me a better program and project manager because I have a feel for what the software developers need to do their job correctly. And I also wonder where the next generation of project management is going to come from if we continue to decimate the domestic software development pool. I lead project managers without any technical background and I find they're not as effective as those who do have that experience.


4 posted on 03/08/2007 12:41:30 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: SirLinksalot
"Tech Talent Shotage ? Employers Must Take Some of the Rap" is not the title of the published article.

Please do not alter titles.

5 posted on 03/08/2007 12:42:56 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: SirLinksalot

"...new skills, new locations, new industries."

My COBOL/FORTRAN/Burroughs' skills aren't good enough....


6 posted on 03/08/2007 12:43:56 PM PST by dakine
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To: SirLinksalot

The real problem is that there is a semi artificial deflationary market environment. With all the Communist and quasi Communist countries now dumping and undercutting Western prices, companies are under immense cost reduction pressure. This leads to that "you're luck you have a job, we could RIF you any minute" mentality, etc. Maybe Freaked Trade is not what it was depicted to be.


8 posted on 03/08/2007 12:48:17 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: SirLinksalot
For one thing, "employee engagement" is near an all-time low, observes Tom Casey, VP of human capital at the Concours Group. That's management consulting speak for the fact that tech pros are demoralized, thanks to knee-jerk offshore outsourcing and the post-bubble malaise. Many of their employers hail from the "you should be happy you have a job" school of management. As a result, Casey says, IT pros are all-too-anxious to switch companies, even careers. And given the market uncertainly, they're advising their kids to steer clear of the profession--at least according to many disillusioned readers who responded to my last column.

Feedback cycle. As more citizens leave IT and other tech fields, more will be off shored, which will lead to more leaving the tech field.

We were an agricultural economy, became a manufacturing economy, and are now leaving the service economy. What is next?

10 posted on 03/08/2007 12:50:27 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SirLinksalot; A. Pole
Meantime, if you can't find the right job but insist you have all the right skills and are doing all the right things (a common refrain among readers), "take a good look at the jobs you're pursuing and the competencies that you have," Casey says. "You need to consider re-inventing yourself"--yes, new skills, new locations, new industries. Employees must step up as well.

Sounds like Greenspan-speak.

"All the world's a virtual stage...

That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything."

13 posted on 03/08/2007 1:08:42 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Many of their employers hail from the "you should be happy you have a job" school of management.

Well, that's CEO-think. Many of us hiring managers would love to hire US talent - regardless of cost - but the big bosses won't let us. Part of it is that few companies really understand the potential positive impact of IT on their businesses - in many industries it remains a cost to be ruthlessly controlled, like the electric bill. ;)

14 posted on 03/08/2007 1:13:19 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: SirLinksalot
Businesses have bought this on themselves. What is the point in learning IT skills in college when employers keep sending those jobs overseas.

Those same employers then decry the lack of skilled college graduates. What student is going to spend 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars on an education to get a job that gets out-sourced to India?

15 posted on 03/08/2007 1:16:28 PM PST by BRITinUSA
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To: SirLinksalot
Here is a quote from a book titled Die Broke:

“The answer is quit today: mentally separate yourself from your employer and realize that you’re on your own. Abandon any remaining tinges of loyalty to your employer (who long ago abandoned any sense of obligation to you) and instead think of your job and yourself the same way free-agent athletes do.” (Pollan & Levine 1997, 11)

Yes, there are unique drivers when it comes to the IT world but this is the underlying attitude.

16 posted on 03/08/2007 1:28:48 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: SirLinksalot

One possible answer: Make the Philippines a state or states (Most Filipinos speak English and many are college educated, yet currently underemployed)
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/politics/index.html


18 posted on 03/08/2007 2:07:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: SirLinksalot

Sorry, bad link, here is that article: http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/jan/article528.html


19 posted on 03/08/2007 2:20:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
these execs say they're preoccupied with building their next-generation tech workforces amid a looming talent shortage in the United States
[...]
IT pros are all-too-anxious to switch companies, even careers. And given the market uncertainly, they're advising their kids to steer clear of the profession

"talent shortage" bump

25 posted on 03/08/2007 7:55:25 PM PST by A. Pole (SomeoneNeedsToSayIt: "the job of the[...]citizens is to invest, not toil away on a production line")
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To: SirLinksalot
Age discrimination, outsourcing, math requirements, Homer Simpson, affluence and cynicism have all had an effect on our kids' attitudes toward discipline and hard work required to acquire and deploy engineering skills.


BUMP

35 posted on 03/09/2007 2:28:24 AM PST by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Increase funding for recruiting and developing math teachers, and change immigration laws to make it easier for foreign IT pros to work in the United States.

Which is it? Develop internally, or bring in outsiders? And why bring outsiders in, when you can just outsource to where they live now?

37 posted on 03/09/2007 2:45:39 AM PST by Bernard (Immigration should be rare, safe and legal.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Sorry...didn't mean to hijack your thread...carry on ;)


41 posted on 03/09/2007 2:58:01 AM PST by chasio649
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