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Native American Courts: Precedent for an Islamic arbitral system (1993)
The American Muslim (TAM) ^ | Originally published in the print edition of The American Muslim April-June Spring 1993 | Issa Smith

Posted on 03/07/2007 5:29:42 PM PST by mmanager

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Long read but you need to check out this web-site if you have not already. This is scary crap.

This article was recently re-posted on this site. Cruise around the site and you will find the intent and their ultimate goals.

We have got to put a stop to this and if we don't, we will be Britain in 20 years.

It is now becoming a part of our fabric in the country, time to burn the clothes.

Rudy and Bush with Immigration? This is just the beginning of our children and grand-childrens nightmare.

1 posted on 03/07/2007 5:29:46 PM PST by mmanager
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...as we attempt to implement Muslim Family Law in North America.
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This is worse than scary. It shows what Islam is worth to America -- major PURE TROUBLE in the making. Throw them out before it gets as bad as Europe.


2 posted on 03/07/2007 5:31:12 PM PST by EagleUSA
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I thought Indians could do this only in their own nations. Are we going to see Moslem nations set up inside the United States?


3 posted on 03/07/2007 5:38:04 PM PST by Abcdefg
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There's a difference. The Indians were here first and were granted a degree of sovereignty.

I trust that those unique considerations will not be extended to Muslim invaders, who have no more right to them than any other American citizens.


4 posted on 03/07/2007 5:38:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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If Islamofascist nutballs want to use Sharia Law as the basis for arbitration, and base that on the privilege Indian tribes have, let them petition Congress to sell them a reservation in the Western desert to which all Moslems in America will relocate to live there the rest of their lives.


5 posted on 03/07/2007 5:41:40 PM PST by muawiyah
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Indian reservations are treated as sovereign nations. That's why they can have their own judicial system within the reservation. Muslims have so such claim. The only way they can pull that off is to convert the indians on a given reservation to Islam and convince them to replace their laws with Islamic laws. Even then, the impact would be isolated to the specific reservation and tribe involved.

The cited Supreme Court case indicates that jurisdiction is limited to acts that occur on the reservation. Further, only enrolled tribal members of that reservation are subject to the jurisdiction of the tribe. All other persons must take legal actions to state or federal courts.

6 posted on 03/07/2007 5:44:27 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Abcdefg

Are we going to see Moslem nations set up inside the United States?
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They will try -- watch CAIR.


7 posted on 03/07/2007 5:46:46 PM PST by EagleUSA
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yeh yeh......I DARE these filthy muzzies to attempt to invoke their nonsense upon or within an Indian Reservation.

Other than that, they cannot conjure any similarity with American Indians, let alone enough to try to invoke this "precedent" in court.

But I'm glad this fool wrote and published this s hitpiece.....people are gasping about the very idea and the goal it shamelessly reveals, and that is a very good thing.


8 posted on 03/07/2007 5:47:02 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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Serious errors of fact here.

In 1789, it was estimated that 10 million Indians lived in the area now part of the United States. Today there are less than 2 million, half of whom live in urban areas and a third of whom live on reservations.

The number of Indians who lived in the Americas prior to Columbus is a matter of intense debate. A few of the "high-counters" might spring for 10M in what is now the US in 1491, although that would be the upper limit. It is generally agreed that something like 90 to 95% of the population died off in the next 100 to 200 years as a result of disease. It is quite unlikely that more than 1M Indians lived in this area in 1789.

The total population for all of North and South America (white and native) in that year is estimated at 16M, most of whom lived in the more long-settled Caribbean and Latin American areas. Haiti alone had well over 500,000 people.

It is probable that the 3M or so white and black Americans between the Appalachians and the sea significantly outnumbered all the Indians scattered over the rest of mid-latitude North America.

9 posted on 03/07/2007 5:50:25 PM PST by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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native American courts are a separate thing becaus the Indian Nation is considered a world apart.

If the Islamic Supremacists want to be open about their Saudi funded Islamic Imperialism they are bringing to the court, they might at least find people LISTENING to them make the case for their own bit of the Islamic Nation in the US.


10 posted on 03/07/2007 6:04:52 PM PST by weegee (Carbon credits are nothing but the Global Warming movement's way of selling indugences.)
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To: Cicero

Truly said.


11 posted on 03/07/2007 6:06:15 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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The Saudi mosques are outposts of a sovereign nation. Such as life is when you permit a supremacist theocractic government to engage in something that should be forbidden.
12 posted on 03/07/2007 6:09:17 PM PST by weegee (Carbon credits are nothing but the Global Warming movement's way of selling indugences.)
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Ping to interesting read


13 posted on 03/07/2007 6:17:45 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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Utter crap.

American Indian law was designed to deal with social systems that were in place BEFORE the continent was colonized by Europeans.

Arabs/Muslims have no part in this. Therefore, they have no standing to demand anything comparable.


14 posted on 03/07/2007 6:24:14 PM PST by sdillard
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To: weegee
The Saudi mosques are outposts of a sovereign nation.

They have no diplomatic standing. If they are used to harbor enemy combatants, a search warrant will suffice.

15 posted on 03/07/2007 6:28:02 PM PST by Myrddin
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1. they aren't a nation.

2. they aren't indigenous.

3. they ARE a religion, along with zillions of other religions.

go down this road and you have NO LAW.

16 posted on 03/07/2007 6:39:30 PM PST by wildwood
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"The Saudi mosques are outposts of a sovereign nation".

They get one shot at this and it is called an embassy, only one.

By the way, have you checked out this site? This article is just the tip of their iceberg.


17 posted on 03/07/2007 6:57:45 PM PST by mmanager (Rudy = The GAG ONE - Guns, Abortion and Gays - Remove one and call yourself conservative.)
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To: muawiyah
let them petition Congress to sell them a reservation in the Western desert

No, we don't want them here! ;-) Actually there's a nice section of the desert in Arizona that they could inhabit. It's called the Barry M. Goldwater Range. Without shutting down range operations, of course...

18 posted on 03/07/2007 7:11:04 PM PST by mindjam (Is it time to play cowboys and mexicans yet?)
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Well, whatever ~ I was thinking Death Valley myself.


19 posted on 03/07/2007 7:12:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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For this to be a valid precedent don't we first have to take their land and put them on reservations ? ( Casino's optional ).


20 posted on 03/07/2007 7:18:04 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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