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What really happens in out of body experiences (or in near death experiences)
Telegraph ^ | 3/6/07 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 03/07/2007 5:05:33 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: Right Wing Assault
Several times a year I will have an experience where I wake up but my body seems paralyzed. I usually force myself to open my eyes and that does the trick after a few seconds. It is kind of disturbing. It is like my mind is awake but my body is asleep.

Unrelated to the above, once in a great while I will have a nightmarish experience where I feel that there is some evil presence that will "get" me if I don't wake up. I had that nightmare or whatever you want to call it frequently as a child and I still get it infrequently.

41 posted on 03/07/2007 8:09:34 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: LibKill

Many times I've left my senses, fought giant serpents, rats upon my bed




I have left my senses many times and nobody brought me a snack!


42 posted on 03/07/2007 8:23:07 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: LibWhacker
A lot of people seem to feel an intense need to return to their body when they have these experiences. Maybe this is where ghosts come from?

I've sometimes had the "Falling out of bed" sensation.

43 posted on 03/07/2007 8:23:58 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("...Mindless pack of trained Maoist circus seals.")
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To: LibWhacker
Yep, I often get the sensation that I'm falling just as I'm drifting off to sleep, then I'll wake up with a start. Very annoying more than anything else because it prevents you from going to sleep no matter how tired you are.

Have had that experience before. Also, would be really tired and fall asleep only to awake in about an hour and not be able to go back to sleep.

My problem was finally diagnosed as sleep apnea. You fall asleep and your air passages relax too much and your brain tells you that you are smothering. Hence, the adrenaline rush and not being able to fall back asleep. If anyone reading this has ever had it happen to them and feel tired all the time, I suggest that you get your doctor to prescribe a sleep test to determine what the cause is. It can be a life or death situation.

44 posted on 03/07/2007 8:26:06 PM PST by jerry639
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To: Wilhelm Tell
Unrelated to the above, once in a great while I will have a nightmarish experience where I feel that there is some evil presence that will "get" me if I don't wake up. I had that nightmare or whatever you want to call it frequently as a child and I still get it infrequently.

Yup, that's what happens to me. I'm pretty sure this is sleep paralysis. As I said above, when this happens, it's often accompanied by lots of noise, almost like there are voices, and sometimes a feeling of being sucked or pulled. Sound familiar???

45 posted on 03/07/2007 8:28:15 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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To: SoCal Pubbie

About once a month I dream that there is someone standing over my bed, ready to do me harm. Sometimes I swear to God it's as real as anything I've ever seen. I jump out of bed, screaming every kind of profanity, desperately flailing to turn on the lights.




It happens once a month? Have you spoken to your Pastor?


46 posted on 03/07/2007 8:31:17 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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I understand. After several years of maybe three or four times each week. I would wake up screaming bloody murder. Scared me my wife and the kids. It went on so long that nobody woke up or heard me. I was later diagnosed with sleep apnea. Had one time that I was awake and could not move.


47 posted on 03/07/2007 8:46:32 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: unkus

Tell him like it is. If I die tonight, and thats the last picture I saw and will remember, I'm gonna come back and haunt him through eternity.


48 posted on 03/07/2007 9:08:58 PM PST by stumpy
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To: LibWhacker

Bump.....


49 posted on 03/07/2007 9:38:04 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Old_Mil

it was indescribable


50 posted on 03/07/2007 9:47:06 PM PST by Revelation 911
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To: RepublicanPOTUSin08
It happens when I'm coming awake, but equidistant from both sleep and consciousness. I hear mumbling or laughter or some such thing, often feel like I'm being pulled or sucked down a vortex, all accompanied by an immense feeling of terror that causes me to scream myself awake.

This has happened to me several times. I'm usually terrified I'll die before I can wake up.

51 posted on 03/07/2007 9:56:53 PM PST by barker ( A smile is a curved line that sets things straight.)
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To: RepublicanPOTUSin08

Same sleep paralysis experience here.

Have also experienced rare light floating - nothing as described in the article however in which one can see his body from above.

It's very scary and so real, but I've managed to control it by saying to myself that this is only a dream. It works in that I can snap out of it and shorten the terrible experience.


52 posted on 03/07/2007 10:14:05 PM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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To: LibWhacker

"I have no idea. They could happen at any time and for no apparent reason. This article seems to suggest they only happen at times of great trauma, but that wasn't my experience at all -- thankfully!

Diet may have something to do with it.

One food additive I could think of is MSG in Chinese food.


53 posted on 03/07/2007 10:21:16 PM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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"Just today in the news a woman woke from a 6 year coma and the doctors called it a Miracle, a Mystery.

Remember reading this story but don't remember reading about her experiencing spiritual healing, or anything spiritual for that matter.


54 posted on 03/07/2007 10:24:06 PM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

"The first time I had it I was very young and remember being scared to death.

Very terrifying.

In almost all cases of the sleep paralysis I've experienced, it's about someone attempting to break into my house through a window or main entrance and my inability to stop them. During these expriences also I can "feel" the presence of an extraneous being near me as if preventing me from moving. Their presence is very real and scary.

What I am baffled about, however, is why the dream accompanying the paralysis is always a scary one - never a pleasant and enjoying one. Why?


55 posted on 03/07/2007 10:32:08 PM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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Then how do you explain more than one individual who "floated" above the room while doctors feverishly tried (and succeeeded in) to save their lives? These people were able to later describe exactly what happened during their time of "death." The medical personnel were amazed at the details provided.

My sister experienced this twice in 1981 when she suffered a brain aneurysm and was unconscious for 3 months. She survived and is now 85 and lives alone. My wife had to "reprogram her" to walk and other functions...

56 posted on 03/07/2007 10:33:57 PM PST by tubebender ( Everything east of the San Andreas fault will eventually plunge into the Atlantic Ocean...)
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"Luckily I haven't had any in about 3 or 4 years.

Haven't had any in about the same number of years. However, when they come back they can recur within a few days or a week. They can recur two to three times and then they stop for years.


57 posted on 03/07/2007 10:35:32 PM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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To: Old_Mil
I guess there is a big difference between a "near-death" experience and a "death" experience. In early October 2006 I had a Coronary Bypass and Graft (CABG). In the 3rd week of October 2006 I experience a cardiac arrest. CPR was administered for approx 7 minutes. My personal experience was extreme fatigue immediately before the event and then there was an absolute quietness. In my situation I have no memory of seeing bright lights, observing activities in the room floating above others or any other of the described paranormal activities.

The major effect it has had on me is short term memory and to some degree long-term memory. There are times now that I have difficult time even signing my own name. Names aren't as easily remembered and unfortunately there are times I simply forget what my next task may be. Although this is an event I would like to put behind me there propably isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about the event.

58 posted on 03/07/2007 10:35:39 PM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Do you also experience this someone standing over the body is also holding/touching you and being responsible for your not being able to move? That is my experience.

I've been able to control and shorten the experience by saying to myself in my dream state that this is not real and is only a dream. It does help me tremendously.


59 posted on 03/07/2007 10:39:01 PM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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To: LibWhacker
Re: "idea that the near-death experience is a biological experience"

The study is nothing new. Try research from Dr. Persinger and his "God Helmet." Bombard the brain with EM waves and feel what happens. Everything from terror to sexual gratification. He also knows cell phones has an effect on the brain.
60 posted on 03/07/2007 10:39:05 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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