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To: JohnnyZ

You're citing a website called 'Priests for Life'. Of course they would mention abortion, stem cell research. But what does 'real Catholicism' say?

Did you know that the Catholic Church opposes the WOT? Would it be fair to call you (I assume you're a Catholic) a cafetaria Catholic because you favor the WOT?


55 posted on 03/07/2007 2:48:24 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LtdGovt
Did you know that the Catholic Church opposes the WOT? Would it be fair to call you (I assume you're a Catholic) a cafetaria Catholic because you favor the WOT?

Well, no. You have to distinguish between a clear and unchangeable teaching--that abortion is wrong because it always involves the taking of an innocent life--and a prudential judgment.

When it comes to war, there are only prudential judgments. All abortions are wrong. Some wars are wrong; some are right; some are a mixed bag. The Catholic Church has traditionally relied on just war theory to decide whether or not a war is justified. Among other things, this theory teaches that it is ultimately for the political leaders immediately concerned to decide whether a war is just or not. It is a prudential decision. War is never desirable, but sometimes it is necessary.

The Pope has never said outright that the war on terror was wrong. Some Vatican "spokesmen" have said as much, but they spoke out of turn and beyond their authority.

60 posted on 03/07/2007 2:54:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LtdGovt
But what does 'real Catholicism' say?

What is that, like the MTV version? Where Catholics stop following their faith and start acting 'real'?

Did you know that the Catholic Church opposes the WOT?

You are confused.

The Church is heavily predisposed against war. However, there exist criteria for what constitutes a just war, and the application of those criteria is left to the prudence of the individual.

Would it be fair to call you (I assume you're a Catholic) a cafetaria Catholic because you favor the WOT?

Learn to read -- I said I was Catholic -- learn to spell -- and the short answer is 'No'.

63 posted on 03/07/2007 2:57:36 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: LtdGovt
Would it be fair to call you (I assume you're a Catholic) a cafetaria Catholic because you favor the WOT?

No it won't be fair. As Cardinal Ratzinger wrote shortly before becoming Pope there can be a legitimate difference of opinion among Catholics about the war.

80 posted on 03/07/2007 3:18:15 PM PST by Chesterbelloc
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To: LtdGovt

The Church teaches that certain things are simply "non-negotiable" as Pope Benedict stated just recently. Others are to be matters of conscience.

Abortion is "non-negotiable." The killing of an unborn baby is a most hideous form of homicide.


120 posted on 03/07/2007 7:09:49 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("Shakespeare the Papist" by Fr. Peter Milward, S.J.)
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To: LtdGovt

The Catholic Church DOES NOT oppose the war on terror, it only questions whether or not is a just war and that has yet to be determined by the Catholic church - check your facts before you speak


128 posted on 03/07/2007 8:25:10 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin (Have a Happy Day)
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