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To: pgyanke
Rather than courting American voters looking for real action on real issues, both parties take their bases for granted (and the mind-numb, CNN-watching Dems can do it more easily) and pander to minority groups.

True. A predictable outcome of our electoral system. If you want to couch your entire strategy on getting the apathetic 40% to vote for your side... geez, good luck. But I'm not holding my breath.

I'm sorry but saying that it's just as effective to push someone to vote for your candidate as it is to court their support doesn't make it true.

That's not what I said. I said that courting people to vote for your guy, and scaring people into voting against the other guy, are equivalent and equally-effective (when there are 2 major party candidates & winner-take-all elections).

You can't draw the disaffected and disenfrancised voter that way.

Like I said, I'm not holding my breath re: the prospect of grabbing a lot of votes from the "disaffected" either way. Indeed, I believe any political strategy which relies on this... hope?... to be doomed.

Guess what: the ranks of the disenfranchised are full of conservatives who see nothing but socialism in our two main political parties.

If that is true such people should have the maturity and brains enough to recognize that (D)s are generally worse than (R)s on that score (even if (R)s are quite bad!), and vote accordingly. If they don't, I have to wonder about the rationality and sincerity of the motivations they supposedly have.

If the GOP would get back on message and say it loudly, we could actually do something in this next election. If instead they give us a Rudy McRomney, you will see a low voter turnout and a Democrat president.

I don't think you are right, I think that Rudy Giuliani could very well win (if he's nominated). We'll see who's right, though, right?

72 posted on 03/07/2007 9:51:44 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan

My last point on this and then I'll let it go. Most of the country isn't FReeping. They are watching the MSM... even those of conservative bent. They rail against the Dan Rathers of the world but still rely on them to know what is going on. What's the effect? I can tell you from friends and family, they are depressed with both political parties. Hell, even I was depressed over Thanksgiving when all I had was the MSM at my relative's house... the war's a mess; the GOP is riddled with scandal; there's no hope... yuck!

Rudy is our annointed choice because the MSM sees him as easily torpedoed. All they have to do is sing his praises as the second coming for the "stupid" party to see him as their most electable choice. Then, in the general election, they can discuss his liberal-leanings on the issues... even in positive terms. The Dem voters will still vote for the (D) but the (R) base will split.

You can't cheat an honest man. Putting up a real conservative is the MSM's biggest fear. For one, he's boring and bad for ratings. For another, lack of dirt is a lack of ammunition to help the Dems.

That's the way I see the world. I'm done now. God bless you.


76 posted on 03/07/2007 11:48:00 AM PST by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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