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As one who live in Vermont now..... These stupid Bush lied/people died type of feel good votes; both local and federal are a waste of time. The folks supporting them are the definition of the loonie left. The majority of the ones driving this type of B.S. in this state, are living off of their trust funds, and are from Mass. or N.Y. ( Bernie Sanders is from Brooklyn IIRC)

Please keep in mind their values do not represent everyone in the state. There are some true conservatives. Bashing the state as a whole ( a F.R. sport it seems) serves no purpose other than driving wedges between the folks who need to work together i.e. conservatives.

For all those wanting to write the state off ... I say look around you, your own utopia might not be as great as you think.

Please keep in mind their values do not represent everyone in the state. There are some true conservatives. Bashing the state as a whole ( a F.R. sport it seems) serves no purpose other than driving wedges between the folks who need to work together i.e. conservatives.

For all those wanting to write the state off ... I say look around you, your own utopia might not be as great as you think.

I concur...! Vermont is a wonderful place. About 43% of voters are decent conservatives. The liberal/"alternate lifestyle" crowd targeted Vermont years ago and, led by Howard Dean, Madeline Kunin, Bernie Sanders, et al., have successfully forged a noisy majority.

Nevertheless, there are many, many good true American conservatives in Vermont. I'll name two: (1) John McClaughry, former speach writer for Reagan and Town Moderator in Kirby, Vermont. He may even be a Freeper. (Who is "RealVermonter?") Runs the very thoughtful Ethan Allen Institute, and (2) Paul Presault, who after years of fighting Bernie Sanders and Company up to the Supreme Court and back, eventually won a judgement for taking his property without just compensation.

As for Maple Syrup, there is only genuine maple syrup. I suggest you look up Goodrich's Sugar House on the internet. They ship nationwide. One of the largest in the State. Run by true fiscal and social conservatives, as many of the sugar operators are.

Bottom line. If you all want to do something about Vermont, it wouldn't take many to buy a place in Vermont and start a conservative takeover. There are a lot of real Vermonter allies up there. Only problem is that it gets a bit cold in winter.

You learn how to win hearts and minds and votes in Vermont, and conservatives will be empowered to stop and reverse the liberal slouching toward Gommorah.