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To: zook
"I think Rudy takes NY, all or most of the south, maybe CA, and wins it all."

LOL!

Oh, yes. The South has a long history of voting in lockstep with New York. (/s)

28 posted on 03/07/2007 5:11:10 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

C'mon, man! You think they'll vote for Hillary or Obama?
Get real!

Rudy takes the south in a NY minute.


31 posted on 03/07/2007 5:13:48 AM PST by zook
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To: Enosh
Oh, yes. The South has a long history of voting in lockstep with New York. (/s)

The South is about as solidly Republican now as it had been solidly Democrat before 1960. Giuliani is the 2008 equivalent of the last New York City native to run for President: Al Smith. Al Smith was a "wet" Catholic facing the electorate in a "dry", mostly Protestant South and lost the Upper South states of NC, VA, and TN, the Border states of WV, KY, and MO. Rudoplph Giuliani is a socially liberal secularist in the socially conservative, and still mostly Protestant, South. His supporters are living in a fantasy world if they expect the evangelicals and the gun owners of the South to vote enthusiastically for him. His perceived toughness on foreign policy is the only strong point in the traditionally pro-military South. As with Smith 80 years ago, he may lose the Upper South and the Border States.

However, Giuliani may be able to offset the loss of these states by picking up much of the Northeast, PA, NH, DE, and NJ almost certainly and maybe his home state of NY, CT, and ME. The key to his election is CA, and his political profile is similar to that of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

69 posted on 03/07/2007 5:47:24 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Enosh

Actually the Southern-New York alliance has been the centerpiece of Democrat strategy since 1796. Jefferson, Madison, Aaron Burr and George Clinton created it. Burr was Jefferson's first VP, Clinton his second. That was the axis of the Democrat party and has remained that way. Andrew Jackson's VP was Martin Van Buren of NY. NY Democrats aided the Secessionists every way they could including rioting over the draft during the Civil War.

Franklin Roosevelt was the most successful politician of the 20th century because he could count on the racist Democrat party in the South to produce his victories through suppression of the black Republican vote.


150 posted on 03/07/2007 7:52:46 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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