I think they're both a little suspicious.
Brilliant.
I listened to her on Hannity & Colmes last night.
I agree that her statement that "faggot" isn't offensive to gays was debatable.
I agree with her, since I work regularly with youth, that the young toss the word "faggot" around as a pejorative that doesn't necessarily mean they think the person is a homosexual. In the same way, the real "f" word doesn't necessarily have anything to do with coitus when it gets used.
It was clear to me in the tape replay that she used "faggot" in a parenthetical comment in which Edwards name was outside the parentheses rather than inside.
Her effort at irony hinged on how people aren't allowed to use the word faggot.
This may be a shocker, but I honestly didn't know that such a social convention around the word "faggot" had come to pass. I always believed that a "faggot" was a flaming gay....the overly flamboyent kind like in "The Bird Cage"...flaming, so therefore, faggot.
I think they're both a little suspicious.
I agree with Ann.
My kid and his friends say "thats gay"
It rarely refers to anything sexual in nature.
There are some words that it's just in poor taste to use. If someone wants to try to defend himself for having used them, as Senator Byrd did with the n-word, he just digs himself into a deeper hole. If one says, "not all Blacks are n___s and not all n___s are Black," as Byrd did, or "they call themselves that" it doesn't improve one's situation.
If there's an ambiguity in the meaning of words, it doesn't mean that one can simply pick and choose which meaning one wants, and ignore the other. Insults are different from other words in this respect. Coulter's word is both an insult children use and an adult insult for homosexuals. The sting comes from the two senses, and a lot of the "meaning" is in that very sting. One can't simply say, "I was only using it in this sense" and be wholly honest.
Was her use of the word as bad as people seem to think? It was stupid, childish, and easily backfired on her. That's bad enough, I think. Ann's statements have a cumulative effect on people. A lot of people who've loved her up to now will go on doing so. If you're already fed up with her, this is just another nail driven in. It would be useful to know if anybody was turned off by this latest affair alone.
I suppose "homosexual" and "lust" are the proper names. Even if homosexuals uses many other names to describe their identity (like "faggot"), it's inappropriate to follow this language as it's a "bait-and-switch" tactic inviting souls to sin via abuse.
There are a lot of infamous "bait-and-switch" tactics that are common today. Historical documentation reveals such traps. Perhaps we remember them as "we must go to war/we should never go to war", "they have WMD/no they don't", or "We're not spending enough on our troops/we're spending too much on this war". The only real message to the bait-and-switch is "I want to have absolute power over your will and you should give it to me freely by voting for me."
I recall the same victimhood response from people of a different continental background (and sometimes a different appearance). Some of those stressing the difference had gone through a series of appearance appropriate language. I can't recall the all of the exact details. Maybe they aren't important for a final conclusion, but the verbage went from a series of "colored/negro, black, African American". Confusion rises because not everyone from the African continent can claim the same identity as one who's naturally dark-skinned and living in America. Not every African continent dweller is "black" skinned. Not every naturally-dark American has an African continental origin. Not every naturally-dark American who has ancestors from Africa has just arrived in America within the last generation. Furthermore, if there's emotions of economics and the idea that skin-color has something to do with earning income, then there are many more impoverished people about this world much worse off than self-deceiving American citizens.
Since there are plenty more products of interracial love making in America today (just visit a singles site and look at self-posted multi-hyphenated ethnic backgrounds), the real discussion for identity is respect. Perhaps the genetics has become a conversation starter because talking about the weather is too politically uncomfortable? Gradually, as the whole understands, using appearances for political purposes for some fictitious edge for political popularity polls in reality weakens the respect for those separated by appearances. Victimhood has made us all suspicious suspicion victims and hard hearted to real victims of far worse crimes and circumstances. This is what the devil intended and must be recognized as such.
Despair and lust are deadly sins. I have to recognize it in myself less I use it as an excuse to murder my brother the way Cain killed Abel or desire an out-of-bounds Bathsheba (which leads to another murder). It's vital to recognize and avoid being crestfallen or horny like a lower creature/animal. We await Joyfully in God's Hope and thus become masters of the despairing demon lurking at the door beckoning to devour us (reference the Book of Genesis), and pray for Angelic intercession (Book of Tobit) to tie up diabolic obsessions. And should we fall, we can't deny God's Mercy and hang ourselves like Judas.
Using the self-imposed language that a political agenda follows does nothing to lift the despairing lust vice(s). In essence, sin gives aid to a diabolic enemy. In this case, the enemy is not a homosexual, but the vice. After all, a homosexual is just like me--a soul struggling against desires that keep us from God's Perfection. The aid given to the vice is abuse, and abuse/rage is a sin (reference the 5th Commandment and the "2nd Greatest Commandment", to love your neighbor as yourself).
If we are to give all our love to God with our entire being (Greatest Commandment), then in receiving Love of God we should reflect the same to our neighbor as we love the way God Loves us.
I'm not sure that I could give advice to Ann Coulter. She's a lot smarter than me (or is that "I"?). Perhaps she can admit fault before admonishing? "I admit my fault of pride and vanity...because DAMN, I'm one hot blonde! You homosexuals ought to forget hairy sweaty testosterone oafs and find a real woman to love and be loved. A real woman like me!" I don't know if that's the best approach. I can imagine her saying it, but it's probably not the best apology for this situation. Humility is better, but humor is fun too. The very deviant diabolic purpose for sewing a "militant" homosexuality is that there is an equal and opposite resistance from those who are naturally repulsed by aggression. When sinners are put off by the acts of aggressors, such as that from lust-filled men, then they convey similar suspicions to all men, including Jesus Christ. Who wants man-love when it becomes a dirty name and act? Like all vices, homosexuality must be mastered with Divine Intervention.
A sinner like a homosexual wants a "real man" and that Man is Jesus. Jesus is the real deal, and it takes the God/Man to overcome our weakness. His Perfect body, unblemished of sin (and no broken bones) is the Perfect Sacrifice. Let our desires be for Him.
A sinner, like all sinners, wants a "father's love" and the Father of Love is God the Father. Let our desires be for Him.
A sinner, like me, wants to express pure love, and the Purest of Love is the Love expressed between God the Father and His only Son, Jesus, and that Love is So Pure it's the Holy Spirit, an entire Person begotten not made. And we can be filled with the Spirit and full of Life and Love. Let the devil despair his glass coffin.
LOL!
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Whatever you think of her original comment, that explanation is unbelievably disingenuous. She must think people are flaming idiots or something."
Did you catch her on Hannity last night?
She gave the explanation then and it didn't seem the keast disingenuous. An explanation was not really necessary.
Her comment was dead on, she still stands by it and made no apologies for it.
Her wry barb was two fold:
She was commenting on the Democrat candidates and implied that Edwards is a faggot.
His effeminate qualities are well known. Other media people call him "The Breck Girl" relentlessly. So why is everyone suddenly upset at Ann?
The answer is found in the main thrust of Ann's comment. She was showing contempt for that portion of our society that feels that it's appropriate for someone to have to go into rehab over their choice of words. The way she delivered her line showed her disgust with the PC police.
In last nights show she again said that the dems were wusses, weak and sissies. It was her equivalent to Arnolds comment about his opponents being "girlie-men"
It's a schoolyard taunt as Ann aptly described it.
Looks like the liberal wing of FR is out in force today.
You are a flaming idiot.
I think referring to Johnny Whiplash as a "pussy" would have been more accurate than "faggot", but, then, that would not have fit with the whole 'Isaiah Washington' joke thing, which was Ann's aim.
I for one am sick of our "leaders" tiptoeing around afraid to "offend" liberals. Screw 'em. Bush has kissed up to RATs and liberals for six years now, and they spit in his and our faces. That by itself proves you can't get along with the sonzabitches.
F the "new tone".
Go Ann!
I liked it.
And for that matter, I like and support Ann also.
Michelle Malkin puts it best:
'Her "faggot" joke was not just a distraction from all the good that was highlighted and represented at the conference. It was the equivalent of a rhetorical fragging--an intentionally-tossed verbal grenade that exploded in her own fellow ideological soldiers' tent.
'There are countless conservatives who bring their children to CPAC. It's a family-friendly event. I brought mine last year and the year before. I met several parents with their kids there this year. We expect CPAC to be a place where conservative role models speak with clarity, passion, and integrity. There are enough spewers of mindless filth, vulgarity, and hatred on TV, at the movies, and in the public schools. We don't expect our children to be exposed to that garbage at the nation's preeminent conservative gathering.
'I was in the back of the ballroom and did not see any children in the audience during Coulter's speech. But what if there had been?
'Would you want your children hearing the word "faggot" spoken in such a casual and senseless manner? Would you like your first-grader or three-year-old running around the halls of CPAC singing "faggot, faggot, faggot?" Not me. Not anymore than I'd like my toddler singing "gook, gook, gook" or "sambo, sambo, sambo"--favored epithets hurled at conservative minorities by leftist haters groping around in their empty intellectual quivers. There were hundreds of young conservative college students in the ballroom. Would you be proud of your college-age daughter spewing such epithets in her campus debates with leftists?
'With a single word, Coulter sullied the hard work of hundreds of CPAC participants and exhibitors and tarred the collective reputation of thousands of CPAC attendees. At a reception for college students held by the Young America's Foundation, I lambasted the substitution of stupid slurs for persuasion-- be it "faggot" from a conservative or "gook" from a liberal--and urged the young people there to conduct themselves at all times with dignity in their ideological battles on and off campus.'
Ann Coulter is all washed up. She was funny once, but she's run out of good material, so all she can do is hurl insults and epithets. I hope the CPAC people have the good taste not to invite her back again. She's had her run as a political commentator; she needs to return to her day job.
Much ado about nothing.
Everyone just needs to 'faggot about it'.
When we were kids....60 years ago, we called one kid a little fairy. He probably wasn't gay but he sure was a wimpy little kid who didn't play baseball, marbles, mumbly peg etc.. He just wasn't normal...He was just like Edwards. We were little then. As we got older, we used the grown up word fag to describe him.
Yet John Kerry expected all the smart people to believe that he was making a joke about the president when he disparaged our soldiers about their intelligence.
You're so gay.