Get yours HERE. You're right. Everyone should have one of these.
Posted on 03/06/2007 1:50:58 PM PST by Palladin
"I require no followers, but thanks for the instructions into your values."
I've noticed your postings for awhile, and you do apparently have followers. I can't understand why, but you do.
I feel kind of bad for her. In her NASA photos, she looked in control of herself. I think she just got enamored of this guy, and and wanted him to like, or love her. She probably gave up a decent marriage to chase this dream. Very sad. Its a common situation though.
...something called integrity, principle, commitment to vows comes to mind...
...of which the Lisa Nowak types are deficient ...
Get yours HERE. You're right. Everyone should have one of these.
Women are to being understood what rocks are to Sisyphus.
It never ceases to amaze me how every post somehow disintegrates into a personal posting battle between 2 or more people. It takes a lot of time to sift thru this garbage to read the gossip about the love triangle.
I told you the evidence. The facts are that Bill O. has admitted to an affair, which to most people means they were carrying on romantically and secretly behind the backs of their spouses. Bill O. further details the break-up and his conversations with Shipman regarding same. Again, to most people, breaking up means two people who had a romantic or dating relationship have gone their separate ways. Finally, Bill O.'s ex-mother-in-law initally told the press that Lisa had broken her daughter's heart. To most people, that would mean that Lisa became a rival of Bill O.'s wife for his affections, and Lisa won that round.
"It never ceases to amaze me how every post somehow disintegrates into a personal posting battle between 2 or more people. It takes a lot of time to sift thru this garbage to read the gossip about the love triangle."
I'm so sorry for the inconvenience, Mel. This very important thread should not be clouded with such drivel. I will now go away and slit my throat. Gurgle...gurgle...
$24,500 ouch
$24,500 ouch
What an interesting way of insulting fellow FReepers. I dont think anyone follows or leads anyone here. I think a lot of people share opinions, and others (even you) tell others what they think of those opinions. Some opinions are asinine IMHO, but others might disagree.
When I post, which is becoming a rare thing these days, I do so primarily to provide balance and sometimes some objectivity. In this instance, those more familiar with me would understand why I might choose to defend the CDR, and others might just find my morality suspect.
To me, there is ONE point of view that should hold sway, and that is, just what do we actually KNOW about this event? From your posts and others, I would gather 'not much'. In addition, it always pains me to see this site devolve into a right-wing mirror of the angry, negative lefty blogs.
Often, in our zeal to appear holier-than-thou, and unexperienced with human failure, we come off as a less than serious opposition to the other side.
Other than that, I still think you are an ass.
...You might not like Cecily's comments, but on this thread she's making a lot more sense than you, and you have major credibility at FR.
(I don't even know Cecily!)
Whassup with you????
"I do so primarily to provide balance and sometimes some objectivity."
How haughty of you. Your big head is slaying any value that might be found in your words. And your once again pronouncement of my being an ass, doesn't help little boy. Now you've done it... you've dragged me down to your level.
Sorry, dog that's just plain wrong.
Having an affair with a married woman, fellow officer in the same unit is definately against the UCMJ.
CDR O admitted to it. That's all she wrote for him.
In the Army it's called "zipper problems" as in:
Q - Why did Colonel Smith have to retire all of a sudden, he was a sure bet to make general?
A - Zipper problems
Couldn't keep it in his pants, got caught up in the I'm-a-too-important-special-leader-warrior complex.
The fact is they'll replace you with someone just as good in a heartbeat
I'm sure he was a great guy, but the bottom line is he screwed up bigtime in the personal judgement department. The most important thing that is expected from an officer. None of the services are especially forgiving of this kind of behavior.
The Navy's full of great pilots You'll get along without him just fine
And I take exception to the pressures while deployed arguement. I'm going over 900 days since 2002 in Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Pakistan and Afghanistan and in my observation a lot more people don't screw around on their spouses than do.
The Anna Nicole story was less pathetic and less sleazy than this one. She is a non story.
How many meanings could the word have in this case, other than the standard one from Merriem-Webster:
"affair: romantic or passionate attachment typically of limited duration"
Bill O. says they had an affair that lasted for some time. Bill and Lisa were married when the affair started. Bill subsequently got divorced, and ex-mom-in-law started to dish the dirt on him to the press before someone asked her not to continue or she thought better of it. Lisa's marriage went on the rocks, and she was in the process of getting a divorce. How can you draw any conclusion other than these two people were cheating on their spouses and both wrecked their marriages? Beyond that, Lisa became so emotionally unhinged when Bill O. moved on that she attacked another woman and now faces jail and a wrecked career. I very much doubt that all this has happened as the result of a completely innocent, aboveboard friendship or work relationship between Bill O. and Lisa.
Too bad we don't follow that line of thinking in Commander in Chief
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