You mean liberals from Oregon actually like a fellow liberal like Jule? Geez, who'd a thunk it. I'm just shocked!
Posted on 03/06/2007 6:42:34 AM PST by meg88
Giuliani top pick at Dorchester Convention Republicans select former New York mayor as choice for president at annual Seaside conference
SEASIDE (AP) - Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's presidential bid looks like it's picking up steam in Oregon.
Giuliani easily won a straw poll Sunday taken among delegates to the Dorchester Convention, an annual gathering of influential Oregon Republicans.
He picked up 60 votes from attendees, nearly twice that of his closest competitor, former Georgia Rep. Newt Gingrich, who finished with 35 votes.
Among the other marquee candidates, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who has received endorsements from Oregon GOP party chair Vance Day and former gubernatorial candidate Kevin Mannix, pulled in 23 votes.
Arizona Sen. John McCain brought up the rear with 19 votes, though he has won the endorsement of Oregon's most prominent Republican, U.S. Sen. Gordon Smith.
"There's a recognition that we need to do something different to win," said Troy Nichols, a Republican consultant.
"And Giuliani, if you look at his record in New York, he's done more on Republican ideas and principles than any other candidate."
Giuliani's relatively liberal leanings on social issues are likely to play well in Oregon and the West, delegates said, where many Republicans have a strong libertarian streak and shy away from government regulation of individual behavior.
Gingrich has not entered the race, but has support from some members of the Republican base who are dissatisfied with the existing field.
"People think Republicans need to return to their roots, and Gingrich is a strong fiscal conservative," said Portland pollster Mike Riley.
The Dorchester straw poll, while a small sampling, can be telling.
In 2006, Portland lawyer Ron Saxton won the gubernatorial straw poll in a field of three candidates; he went on to win the party's nomination.
Other candidates to place in the poll included former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee with eight votes and Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo with 10 votes.
As I understand, Dorchester is rather a RINO crowd.
Impressive, Newt a strong 2nd though.
Hallelujah!
"Impressive, Newt a strong 2nd though.
I'd rather say a very weak 2nd as, between the two, Rudy got 77% more votes than Gingrich.
77% more votes than the rival means a very weak rival.
Giuliani's relatively liberal leanings on social issues are likely to play well in Oregon and the West, delegates said, where many Republicans have a strong libertarian streak
This is oregon though.
Oh, no -- the "only true conservatives" crowd will be here in a minute to set you straight.
People who believe in a conservative use of federal power are not "true conservatives", you see.
The term 'conservative' is in the middle of being hijacked by the Social's.
I know -- our Dorchester is the complete opposite of yours.
"where many Republicans have a strong libertarian streak and shy away from government regulation of individual behavior."
Which is why the voted for the biggest gun grabber in the field.
As polls, primaries play out, I continually to say, that a two G ticket might play very well for the Big Tent GOP as well as some Blue State. The GOP might actually win in '08. Gee , what a novel idea!
As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults.
Duncan Hunter's campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/
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Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
Transcript of video below.
Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?
Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."
Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:
Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."
Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."
Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"
Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."
ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"
Rudy Giuliani: "I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."
Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."
Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!
End clip.
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