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RUDY: SHE'S NO EVIL STEPMOM; DEFENDS JUDI FROM HIS SON'S PARENT RAP (Judi's bitter divorce saga)
NY POST ^ | March 6, 2007 | GEOFF EARLE with Maggie Haberman

Posted on 03/06/2007 3:27:51 AM PST by Liz

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To: veronica

You should play with sourced news articles. While we of course hate the mainstream media, we trust them slightly more to present facts than we do nameless blogs written by left-wing moonbats.

I'm sure the Rudy supporters would be upset if others started posting anti-rudy blog posts as if they were fact.

If you can dig up actual news reports citing facts to support the claims above, you should post the news reports as their own threads, so we can discuss them. It is important that we vet all the candidates.

But not based on blog entries.


201 posted on 03/06/2007 7:13:17 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Yes, if you have issues on which you think Duncan wouldn't be a good president, you should post them.

I will, thanks.

And seeing as how Rudy is trashed on matters other than issues and policy, in very personal manner, I'll focus on that too.

To that end, the American people won't vote for a guy who looks like the Michelin man, and dresses like he shops at the Dollar Store.

202 posted on 03/06/2007 7:13:33 AM PST by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Shhh, we should be pulling together and building up on these lies. Didn't you get the memo? ;)


203 posted on 03/06/2007 7:13:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: veronica; All
I generally don't engage in vicious attacks on candiates I don't support. But if others here continue to sling mud, I can certainly can do the same.

It's not slinging mud when it's true. Perhaps you could try holding your breath and counting to say, 100?
204 posted on 03/06/2007 7:14:40 AM PST by mkjessup ("ahhh don't feel noways tired...ahhh've come too faaaaaar...from whar ahhh started from...!")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I'm sure the Rudy supporters would be upset if others started posting anti-rudy blog posts as if they were fact.

It's been done here. I guess I'll have to go dig them up. :)

205 posted on 03/06/2007 7:15:25 AM PST by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I'm sure the Rudy supporters would be upset if others started posting anti-rudy blog posts as if they were fact.

It's been done here. I guess I'll have to go dig them up. :)

206 posted on 03/06/2007 7:15:29 AM PST by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: veronica
>>>>I generally don't engage in vicious attacks on candiates I don't support. <<<<

>>>>To that end, the American people won't vote for a guy who looks like the Michelin man, and dresses like he shops at the Dollar Store.<<<<

hmmmmmm

207 posted on 03/06/2007 7:17:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: All
TIME OUT---GROUP HUG!!!!

208 posted on 03/06/2007 7:17:32 AM PST by Fawn (http://www.hartzvictims.org/)
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To: angkor

Fortunately, we are a year before the primaries, so we can work to ensure that we aren't stuck with the choice of bad or badder in the election.

When your best argument for your choice is that we HAVE to vote for him because the democrat will be worse, that's not really going to win you many supporters before the primaries.


209 posted on 03/06/2007 7:19:02 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Calpernia

As I stated, I am more than willing to get as personal as the Rudy-haters. Duncan Hunter is a schlepper. Not ready for prime time. He's never been tested on the national stage. It's a fantasy that he will be the nominee. A FANTASY.


210 posted on 03/06/2007 7:19:54 AM PST by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: veronica
What is a schlepper? I'm not sure I heard that word before.

And explain to me why demanding to know more about his [Rudy] membership with Stonewall vets is a personal attack? I find that to be a frightening National Security issue.

211 posted on 03/06/2007 7:22:30 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Well, actually, security is not really what they do. From their web page, their "philosophy" statement:

I respectfully disagree. The statements you cite are normal high-end consultancy gobbledygook.

If you dig into the press releases you'll see that most of their work is security related, including preparedness. Among the Executives are several administrator/management-types from Giuliani's mayoral tenure; several lawyer-types (common among consultancies including Booz-Allen which does mostly military/municipal/classified work); and the rest are security people.

Finally, the newer Giuliani Security & Safety Asia leaves no doubt whatsoever that its primary mission is security, e.g., "The new company benefits from the combination of Giuliani Partners' expertise in the areas of physical security, emergency preparedness, fire and life safety, and crisis management ... is well-positioned to assist Japanese companies in addressing security risks and associated safety risks."

http://gssa.jp/en/about/

212 posted on 03/06/2007 7:22:44 AM PST by angkor
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To: Nick Thimmesch

213 posted on 03/06/2007 7:23:28 AM PST by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: veronica

You seem to have a real problem with large men. I must admit I've kind of liked having a President that was not fat and was in excellent shape, but I'm not ready to dump a guy because he seems to like eating.


214 posted on 03/06/2007 7:24:51 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: veronica; All
And seeing as how Rudy is trashed on matters other than issues and policy, in very personal manner, I'll focus on that too.

If the reports of his personal conduct are true and accurate, why should that be off limits to discussion? Or do you endorse the approach of Hillary Clinton who proclaimed that any talk of Bubba's impeachment was forbidden?

To that end, the American people won't vote for a guy who looks like the Michelin man, and dresses like he shops at the Dollar Store.

The American people will have more respect for, and will vote for, a Michelin man wearing clothes from the Dollar Store who is still married to the same woman for more than 33 years, who didn't marry his first cousin, annul the marriage, dump his second wife in an attempt to see if "third time's the charm", and the American people will think more highly of someone who didn't get themselves a law clerk deferrment during Vietnam, and is a decorated, U.S. Army Ranger, with a son who has likewise served in harm's way (in Iraq).

Comparing Rudy Giuliani to Duncan Hunter is like comparing a cheap imported cap pistol to a full auto M-16.

As you have said already this morning, "GET REAL".
215 posted on 03/06/2007 7:26:46 AM PST by mkjessup ("ahhh don't feel noways tired...ahhh've come too faaaaaar...from whar ahhh started from...!")
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To: Calpernia
A schlepper is a slob, or a someone who is carrying things from one place to another. I think you can guess which I mean.

You know Reagan was an actor. I can guarantee you he knew gay people and was friendly with gay people. Imagine this. What if when Reagan was President of the Screen Actors Guild, he was asked to mediate on behalf of a gay person who was being discriminated against. What do you think he would have done??

216 posted on 03/06/2007 7:26:48 AM PST by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: Calpernia

What is a schlepper? I'm not sure I heard that word before.

***

I heard it used in NYC Movers one who moves furniture!

Schlepper
To carry clumsily or with difficulty; lug: schlepped a shopping bag around town.

v.intr.
To move slowly or laboriously: schlepped around with the twins in a stroller.


217 posted on 03/06/2007 7:27:19 AM PST by restornu ("Try to Lead by Example, Not by Trampling on Another!")
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To: All
YIKES Schlepper alert! How on earth have we been so safe since 9/11???

CHAIRMAN DUNCAN HUNTER AND ‘THOSE WHO SERVE’:

KEEPERS OF THE FLAME 2006

 

Rep. Duncan Hunter accepting the 2006 Keeper of the Flame Award.

(Washington, D.C.): On September 20, 2006, the Center for Security Policy paid tribute to House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter and Those Who Serve – the men and women who render invaluable service to the Nation in the War on Terror.

 

Congressman Hunter’s address to the nearly 400 attendees at this elegant black-tie dinner held at Washington's landmark Union Station was preceded by a welcome from Dinner Chairman Jim Pitts, Corporate Vice President of the Northrup Grumman Corporation, and remarks by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.  The Keeper of the Flame Awards were presented to Rep. Hunter and five outstanding representatives of Those Who Serve in the U.S. armed forces by House Appropriations Committee Chairman Jerry Lewis and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Peter Pace, respectively.

 

The event featured a moving video tribute produced by Renegade Productions to one of America’s great patriots, former Reagan Secretary of Defense and the first recipient of the Keeper of the Flame Award Caspar Weinberger, Sr.  Fittingly, Caspar Weinberger, Jr. was on hand to pay tribute to those honored in his father’s last book (which was completed shortly before his death this past spring), entitled Home of the Brave.  The volume tracks the stories of several of nineteen of today’s military heroes, four of the five of whom were recipients of Flame awards in recognition of their service and on behalf of all those who serve in their respective military branches.  The five servicemen honorees were:

 

·         Sergeant Michaeux Sanders, USA.  On April 4, 2004, on what was suppose to be his last day in Iraq, then-Specialist Micheaux Sanders and his unit were called to the aid of a patrol trapped in an ambush by Iraqi insurgents. During the battle, a round struck Sanders in the arm, slicing straight through his shoulder and out the other side, but he continually waved off the medics who tried to come to his aid. Fighting furiously but low on ammunition, Sanders repeatedly exposed himself to the enemy, firing whatever weapons he could find, and helping save several of his fellow crewmembers.  Sergeant Sanders was awarded the Silver Star.

 

·         Captain Brian Chontosh, USMC.  Caught in an ambush in Iraq, Chontosh ordered his vehicle’s driver to advance directly at the enemy position enabling his .50 caliber machine gunner to silence the enemy.  Chontosh then directed his vehicle into the enemy trench, and began to clear it. His ammunition depleted, Chontosh, with complete disregard for his safety, twice picked up discarded enemy rifles and cleared over 200 meters of the enemy trench, and disrupted the ambush.  Captain Chontosh was awarded the Navy Cross.

  

·         Hospital Corpsman Third Class Luis Fonseca, USN.  In Nasiriyah Iraq, during a battle with the Saddam Fedayeen, Fonseca raced through mortar, rocket-propelled grenade and small arms fire tending to wounded Marines, even carrying an injured Marine twice his size on his back for over two hundred yards to bring him to safety. After his brave dash and continuous deadly artillery barrages, Fonseca repeatedly exposed himself to enemy fire to treat Marines wounded along the unit’s perimeter and was able to evacuate them to safety.  Corpsman Fonseca was awarded the Navy Cross.

 

·         Technical Sergeant Stephen Achey, USAF.  During Operation Anaconda, March 2002, in the frigid, icy mountainous terrain of the Shahikot Valley in Afghanistan, then-Staff Sergeant Stephen Achey’s job was to call in precision air strikes on enemy targets. But when his team was ambushed by a hurricane of Al Qaeda and Taliban fire, a mortar blast damaged his communications equipment.  Springing to his feet and running at top speed, Achey was able to retrieve another radio.  He then alternated between the radio and his rifle to orchestrate gunship and fighter attacks that destroyed numerous enemy positions and facilitated the extraction of his wounded brothers in arms.  Sergeant Achey received the Silver Star.

 

·         Lieutenant Junior Grade Bradley Middleton, USCG. In June 2005, LTJG Middleton assumed the duties of Executive Officer of the US Coast Guard Cutter Maui, deployed to the Arabian Gulf in support of Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom.  Over the course of this one-year tour, LTJG Middleton spent over 5,000 hours underway in Iraqi waters and completed approximately 100 vessel boardings in order to ensure the security of coalition forces and assets off the coast of Iraq.

 

Among those in attendance from the Administration for the seventeenth annual Keeper of the Flame Award were: Deputy National Security Advisor J.D. Crouch; Homeland Security Advisor to the President Fran Townsend; Senior Director of Defense Policy and Strategy at the National Security Council William Luti; Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Robert Joseph; Assistant Secretary of State for Verification and Compliance Paula DeSutter; Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Stability Operations Jeffrey Nadaner; and Deputy Assistant to the President for Homeland Security Ken Rapuano; as well as Senators Jon Kyl and James Inhofe, the 1994 and 2005 Keeper of the Flame Award recipients, respectively.

 

The 2006 Keeper of the Flame Awardees with General Pace and Chairman Jerry Lewis.
Other distinguished guests included: Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, Gen. James Jones USMC; Commander of Strategic Command Gen. James Cartwright USMC and Gen. Norton Schwartz, Commander, U.S. Transportation Command; former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Doug Feith; and former National Counterintelligence Executive Michelle Van Cleave.

 

The event concluded with moving remarks by Westwood One’s nationally syndicated talk show host Lars Larsen, who recently lost a close friend in combat in Iraq.  Mr. Larsen joined in thanking Congressman Hunter and all Those Who Serve, and encouraged their support through the work of the Center for Security Policy.

218 posted on 03/06/2007 7:27:42 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Fawn; All
TIME OUT --- GROUP HUG!!!!

Sorry, Veronica is off looking for left wing blog sites she thinks have been used to attack her idol Rudy.
219 posted on 03/06/2007 7:27:56 AM PST by mkjessup ("ahhh don't feel noways tired...ahhh've come too faaaaaar...from whar ahhh started from...!")
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To: spikeytx86

I didn't say you were attacking anybody. You listed what you saw as the most likely MSM attacks against 5 other candidates. We know what their attack will be for Rudy.

I was agreeing with you that the MSM will attack our nominee, whoever it is.

If they are going to attack, I'd much rather it be for stupid things like "he's mormon", or "he used to be for abortion", or "he's evangelical", or "he's a baptist minister".

I can defend my candidates against those silly attacks.

I have a much bigger problem defending my candidate against serious attacks about things I can't defend.


220 posted on 03/06/2007 7:28:44 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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