[flashbunny]

Specter 2008!

[Sunsong]

Rudy ping

[Fierce Allegiance]

Wait until they find out what he's really like, then they'll drop him faster than a partial birth abortion Rudy likes so much.

[piytar]

Oh barf. Another MSM piece saying the Republicans shouldn't run a true conservative ala Reagan. What dripe.

[Afronaut]

Another Post by the "Fifteen Percent"

[pnh102]

Pa. Still Likes GOP

Smerconish is dreaming. Penna. hasn't voted for a Republican president since 1988. Penna. just ousted one of the Senate's finest conservatives and 4 Republican House members. The Penna. House of Representatives is controlled by the Democrat party and the Democrat governor just won a second term.

That state is so blue that the only hopeful thing for Republicans would be for it to lose multiple house seats in the next census.

[ShawTaylor]

"Giuliani leads Clinton 53 percent to 37 percent, and he leads Obama 52 percent to 32 percent"



Wow!
Rudy has even increased his lead over the she-devil in PA from the last poll.
Not looking good for Hitlery. She loses in NJ and PA and she is toast.

[SHOOT THE MOON bat]

I am concerned that Hillary could take the northeastern states by choosing Ed Rendell as her running mate.

[skaterboy]

BUT..BUT..BUT He likes gays and stuff..............sarcasm

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Moderation gave us the FDR SS scheme, moderation gave us welfare for those able to work, moderation gave us a bunch of cowards and moderations gave us the planned murder of the most helpless.
It is easy to fight socialists but moderation will sink America.
Moderation also gives us appeasement and help to our enemies!

[RepublicanPOTUSin08]

Again, here we see evidence that Freepers don't WANT to win Pennsylvania. This is not Massachusetts we're talking about. This is Pennsylvania, a moderate state in the Great Lakes area. Freepers would seemingly prefer not to have to work with anyone north of where Mason meets Dixon anymore.

To this I have three replies:

1) Remember what Zell Miller said to the Democrats about being a national party no more because they gave the finger to the south? You Freepers who constantly give the finger to the north, calling them "Yankees" and whatnot, are also ensuring that the GOP will become a national party no more. You need to stop.

2) This is not 1860, we're not fighting the Civil War over again, so we're all just going to have to learn to get along. If you don't like it, deal. Northerners need to realize the south isn't full of slack jawed yokels. And southerners need to realize that everyone up north isn't a godless heathen bent on hellfire.

3) In an election, the more states/voters you can win, the better you do. It is a GOOD thing to pick a Republican who can win Pennsylvania, not a bad thing.

[penowa]

"Clearly, suburbanites are prepared to support a Republican presidential candidate who is tough on terrorists but moderate on social issues." That gets him most of the Republicrat vote in PA, but he won't get a big hunk of the rural-small town Republican "T," and he won't get the crossover pro-life Democrat vote which is also needed for any Republican to squeak out a win in PA. He's going to finish with less votes than Bush did in '00 or '04 if he's the nominee.

This is nothing but name recognition and voters who no zip about what his record is. If he gets the nomination, you can count on the union newsletters to pound him into the ground and they'll get all the help they need from local newspapers and local TV.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Some evidence that the 06 midterms were not a vote for dems/libs, but a vote against RINOs. Whether it was well placed or misplaced depends on how conscious the voters were or how knee-jerk they were.

[southpaw7]

Face the facts Rudy is the only candidate who can beat Hitlary. Rudy can win in moderate blue states such as PA.

[AmishDude]

Buyer's remorse. Sorry, NE PA, you voted for Rendell, you got 'im. PA does this all the time, in 4 years, they'll wonder why they got that dim bulb Casey. Just like what happened with Wofford. They'll never learn. Never.

[Ingtar]

As late as 10/31/2004 Gallup showed Bush with a four point lead in Pennsylvania. Other polls showed him with various higher leads coming up to the election though some did show Kerry ahead. Bush had enjoyed various leads for awhile, so this was not an aberrant result.

Result: Kerry 51, Bush 49.

[mysterio]

I know I'm tons more excited about handing my guns over to Rudy instead of Hillary. Go team.

[Kevmo]

As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults.

Duncan Hunter's campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/



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Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM

Transcript of video below.




Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?

Culture of life:

ABC clip:

George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"

Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."

Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:

Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."

Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."

Immigration

CNN clip:

Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."

Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."

Gun control:

CNN clip

Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"

Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."

Gay Rights:

CNN Clip:

Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."

ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"

Rudy Giuliani: "I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."

First Amendment:

ABC Clip

Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"

Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."

Party Loyalty:

ABC Clip:

Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."

Conservative Values:

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."

Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."

Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!

End clip.