Cato Institute Looks at Giuliani's Fiscal Record As Mayor

Cato ^ | 3/5/07

[Fierce Allegiance]

You call me names, and don't expect it back?

Look, ya hag, if you don't want crap from me, don't come looking for it. You initiated this exchange.

[Sloth]

Well you tell me? Reagan hired him for his DOJ because he didn't?

The same President that appointed O'Connor and Kennedy? Hardly conclusive.

[republicanwizard]

Hahaha, seriously...I've never scored below the 99% percentile on a verbal skills exam. So please...moron.

[dirtboy]

Well you tell me? Reagan hired him for his DOJ because he didn't?

It's what Rudy did as mayor that is problematic. Such as his well-documented gun-grabbing and support of Dem-sponsored gun-control legislation.

[Fierce Allegiance]

So, mr. smart guy, why you think I need to answer to you a question I posed, as per your writings?

[Josh Randal]

"So, mr. smart guy, why you think I need to answer to you a question I posed, as per your writings?"


It is profoundly clear from this sentence that you were not in that 99 percentile, for sure.

[Reagan Man]

I'm neglecting NOTHING!... but you're in a state of constant denial every time I post this data on Rudy the liberal.

Unlike your LINK to nowhere, everyone is free to follow the LINK I provide to the Manhattan Institute website. The analysis by Edmund J. McMahon and the other findings by MI`s staff are available to everyone. McMahon exposes the good, the bad and the ugly about Rudy`s final closing record as Mayor of NYCity. A record that doesn't show Rudy to be a fiscal conservative. Again. All the facts about Rudy`s final record as Mayor of NYCity are in plain sight on the MI link, right there for everyone to read. Provided you can stop whining long enough and make an effort to read all the facts at MI website.

[BykrBayb]

Thanks for posting that. I thought he was a fiscal conservative. His raving liberalism and downright socialism in other areas disqualifies him for my vote, but I still hold out some level of respect for the guy. I gave him a pass on some of his judicial appointments, believing his hands were tied. I've seen JR blow that theory to pieces. I'm not pleased at all with Rudy's gun-grabbing, support of ripping babies apart during childbirth, and support for the advancement of the homosexual/pedophile agendas. He has many issues in his family life that I find appalling, but I don't put the same weight on them as most of the conservatives here do. I enjoyed my visits to NYC while he was mayor. I still admire the public relations work he did in the wake of 9/11. He's charismatic, and has a cute smile. That's enough for a desperate housewife, but I want more from a president than that. I want someone who will lead this nation through the difficult twists and turns we're faced with, without throwing away everything that makes this nation worth fighting for.

[Fierce Allegiance]

I am a civil engineer, not a writer, but you got my point. I may not have used perfect punctuation, but at least i was able to convey my point, whereas mr. smartypants got his message all mixed up.

Thanks for being perfect, btw.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>You had to visit NYC in the late 80's, early 90's to know the kind of transformation he wrought.

I did visit family and friends in NYCity before, during and after Rudy`s time as Mayor. Good job. That doesn't make Rudy a fiscal conservative.

[Fierce Allegiance]

Josh Randal
Since Feb 18, 2007

So, how much is the Giuliani campaign paying you kids to post these days, newbie troll?

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>Thanks for posting that. I thought he was a fiscal conservative.

You're welcome. Always knew Rudy was a hardcore lefty liberal on the social issues. Up until a year ago, I honestly thought Rudy was a fiscal conservative of sorts and have mentioned on several occaions over the years on this forum. Last summer I began to do my own research into Rudy`s fiscal record as Mayor of NYCity, and turned up plenty of data and information that showed Rudy was no fiscal conservative. Rudy may have had some limited success imposing fiscal restraint on the city budget. However, while Rudy was fiscally responsible by NYCity standards, he was no fiscal conservative.

I stand by my post. There is no reason for the Manhattan Institute or Edmund J. McMahon to post falsehoods. After all, the MI and Rudy have had a close working relationship for 20 years.

[BykrBayb]

Well, he still has a cute smile. A woman I used to know told me she voted for Clinton because he played the sax. She was serious! I've recognized her type around here lately. It's spooky.

[Josh Randal]

It is very interesting that you went around looking for my previous posts. Talk about 'kids', LOL! And I also know you would check my registration date, your type of behavior is predictable. Unfortunately, I am not a 'troll', and I am not being paid by anyone. I have no problem with the 'newbie' moniker because that is what I am here.

I actually have a sister who has been registered here since around 2000, but I will not give up her 'nic', so you can believe me or not. I am retired and she told me to check out FR since I am interested in Rudy and all the other REP candidates as well.

I find the Rudy threads quite amusing. I am sure like me you try and type fast to get your reply 'up', I am a two fingered bang the keyboard guy myself. If you take the time to really think about what you need to say and spell check it, the thread has passed you by. I am sure you know what I am saying.

[Fierce Allegiance]

You admit you aren't perfect, but feel entitled to rag on others. Hmmm, telling!

[Old_Mil]

The following will tell you everything you ever needed to know about Rudy, the War on Islamic Terror, and the second amendment.

Empire State Building Sniper Attack, February 23, 1997:

A Palestinian gunman opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland, and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."

Archives of Rudy Giuliani, Mayor's Message, 2 March 1997:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/html/97a/me970302.html

"Good morning. It has been a week since the terrible tragedy that happened last Sunday at the Empire State Building. And even as we grieve for the families and our hearts and prayers go out to them, perhaps we can use this senseless tragedy to re-energize the fight for gun control."

[Old_Mil]

Up until a year ago, I honestly thought Rudy was a fiscal conservative of sorts and have mentioned on several occaions over the years on this forum. Last summer I began to do my own research into Rudy`s fiscal record as Mayor of NYCity, and turned up plenty of data and information that showed Rudy was no fiscal conservative. Rudy may have had some limited success imposing fiscal restraint on the city budget. However, while Rudy was fiscally responsible by NYCity standards, he was no fiscal conservative.

Well, there we have it. As we've seen, Rudy is neither a fiscal conservative, nor strong on the war on terror. To be quite frank, not even Clinton would have been foolish enough to see a terrorist attack and call for gun control.

Which leaves us with the question of why the 15%ers are still promoting him as a candidate? Could it be they prefer to live in a democrat-flavored world?

[itsahoot]

His kids said he was distant and unfriendly and cold to them.

Only the ones he had witn Nancy, the rest were outstanding conservative Patriots.

You remember Nancy, the one who along with the RINO senator Warner, scuttled Ollie North's chance to become a senator.

[areafiftyone]

Oh yes those are the ones I mean. They cause a lot of trouble when he was president.

[Reagan Man]

I'd say those hardcore 15%`ers who keep promoting Rudy on this conservative website, are latent liberals. Can't say why they don't choose to become Democrats. Strange, very strange.