[NormsRevenge]

The sad fact is the bulk of the electorate wherever you go in the US is educated in public schools that indoctrinate more than educate. but thanks for the advice.

when parties actually align themselves with candidates that turn off more voters than they excite, is the candidate to be forgiven for then continuing to further alienate them by by pushing the other parties agenda zealously?

California is an experiment gone bad,, and not even a movie actor can change that, and now, has apparently given up trying to..

[GSlob]

"The sad fact is the bulk of the electorate wherever you go in the US is educated in public schools that indoctrinate more than educate."
As one of the greatest scoundrels ever once said, "the facts are stubborn things". A major re-tuning of the heads, referred to earlier, is even theoretically impossible outside of shock therapy. To make a conservative, one starts with a liberal and subjects him/her to a mugging [a form of shock therapy]. One could even go into technical discussion of minimal necessary shock intensity and duration. Theoretical aspects aside, 9/11 was not enough of a shock in this aspect.

[gpapa]

In the long run the entire USA is trending to become a copycat of socialist leaning governments prevalent in Europe, like has happened in Canada and the rest of the Americas. This is a dangerous road to take for a constitutional republic that is the USA. It must be stopped.