Schwarzenegger: GOP presidential hopefuls should stick to center

AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/4/07 | AP

[gpapa]

Yes you did, and I was 26 seconds behind you:-)

[Mr. Mojo]

Since in every presidential race since 1988 the Democrat has won by as much as FOURTEEN percentage points

The Republican nominee had won CA's huge elecotoral block from '68 - '88 --- six straight general elections. But in the late 80s amnesty was granted to millions of illegal aliens. ...and their extended families. No suprise that the Dem nominees have dominated ever since.

So what's the GOP establishment doing now? Pushing amnesty yet again, but this time the future Democrat voters number in the tens of millions. .....and they're spread out over the entire country, not just in the Southwest.

GOP suicide, in progress.

[GSlob]

"The sad fact is the bulk of the electorate wherever you go in the US is educated in public schools that indoctrinate more than educate."
As one of the greatest scoundrels ever once said, "the facts are stubborn things". A major re-tuning of the heads, referred to earlier, is even theoretically impossible outside of shock therapy. To make a conservative, one starts with a liberal and subjects him/her to a mugging [a form of shock therapy]. One could even go into technical discussion of minimal necessary shock intensity and duration. Theoretical aspects aside, 9/11 was not enough of a shock in this aspect.

[NormsRevenge]

Is what we are experiencing here of late at a conservative forum a form of 'shock therapy' or a variation thereof performed by those who prefer to operate from in the middle of the road?

Theoretically, the best way to destroy your opposition is to turn it on itself.

[Darkwolf377]

The Amnesty proposal--which is wrongheaded now, just as it was when RWR did it--can only have ONE origin: It's good for Big Business to have cheap labor. The ONLY reason I can think of for Bush to be so full-throttle behind it is because he really is trying to help out Big Business.

I really can't think of any other reason why someone--anyone--would be for such a thing.

[SierraWasp]

"Screw you Arnie!"

You'd never go back to wimmin!!! (snort!)

[EternalVigilance]

"I'm very proud that the Republican Party has three candidates that some conservatives feel like they are not conservative enough, because that feels like they have a good chance of winning the overall election," said Schwarzenegger, a moderate Republican himself. "The people in America are in the center, they're not extremists."

Arnold's such a girlie-man. To him, Mao was a "centrist," and a "moderate reformer."

[therut]

I can NOT stand this man as a politician. He is nothing I would EVER vote for.

[gpapa]

In the long run the entire USA is trending to become a copycat of socialist leaning governments prevalent in Europe, like has happened in Canada and the rest of the Americas. This is a dangerous road to take for a constitutional republic that is the USA. It must be stopped.

[therut]

I agree. The Republician party will cease to exist.

[goldstategop]

Conservatives are the extremists; liberals are the true moderates. The Drive Bys/MSM have fallen in love with Red Arnold.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[NormsRevenge]

It has been a long slow gradual process,, the left has labored long and hard, and it seems even some here now do not have the fight or the gumption to stand in the way of Progressives masquerading as 'neoconservatives'

[GSlob]

I meant nationwide scale [the electorate], and not the confines of FR. FR is not the electorate, but rather a small and rather unrepresentative slice of it. The same could be said of the swift boat veterans - but they shock therapied potential kerryacs on sufficiently massive scale, and that's what counted for their effectiveness. And even then, kerry lost by mere 4 million votes, and it all boiled down to a single state, thus the effectiveness of swift boat veterans was rather limited.

[Mr. Mojo]

The Amnesty proposal ....can only have ONE origin: It's good for Big Business to have cheap labor.

Once amnesty is passed the (formerly illegal) labor won't be cheap anymore -- they'll be legal American citizens who'll be getting American wages. ....and many will join Democrat-controlled unions. So from a GOP perspective amnesty makes no sense whatsoever.

[NormsRevenge]

No problem, I agree that FR is a small piece of the puzzle if you will and as you mentioned not perhaps a good representation for the nation as a whole. which makes me chuckle when I see some here still slinging hash for moderates like its going out of style. the last election and its results should have served notice to those folks.

not sure why all the effort, seems wasted imo, as most here are set in their ways and beliefs anyway.

well. it's been fun, time to turn in.. G'nite

[Old Landmarks]

Arnold never did have any core beliefs. He is just another left wing, immoral ignoramous like Jesse Ventura. Their lack of traditional morality, in fact their hostility toward traditional morality is not different than the perverted Bill Maher, thus they think just alike.

The leftists of Berkeley and their allies in the press keep up the BIG LIE that the far left is really the center so that the normal American is on the far right.

The ACLU defines the pervert's center so that Ronald Reagan was an extremist instead of an historically normal and traditional American. These people continue the big lie as a way of life. They love the liberalism and moral sickness of Europe's Jacobin elite, so they all worship at the altar of perversion.

[Darkwolf377]

Well, that makes sense, and I can only say I'm running on almost no sleep as an excuse for not thinking so clearly. So who does this benefit, and why is Bush behind it?

[upsdriver]

"I sure hope Arnie and Rudy are not the future face of the GOP."

If they are it will be the death of the Republican party.

[upsdriver]

"That's unfair. Schwarznegger wisely moved to the center *after* his conservative ballot initiatives crashed and burned"

I remember. That's when he decided to become one of the "girly men"!

[upsdriver]

"Awaiting the the inevitable flames and accusations of selfishness because I wont compromise on abortion and accept Rudy.."

How about KUDOS!!