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Schwarzenegger: GOP presidential hopefuls should stick to center
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/4/07 | AP

Posted on 03/04/2007 9:18:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: B Knotts
I agree, Rudy IS Arnold. I was attacked for voicing skepticism about Rudy. Then I sat back and watched the thread devolve into something resembling my boys elementary school. The friggin primary is 10 months away! Im going on record saying that the GOP will back Rudy. IMHO, thats the same approach as putting Martinez in charge of the GOP. Which, in effect, is putting a social liberal up because he is deemed electable. The GOP will not be getting anymore money from me until I see some changes. I dont care what anyone says, I dont want a centrist or moderate candidate.

Awaiting the the inevitable flames and accusations of selfishness because I wont compromise on abortion and accept Rudy..

21 posted on 03/04/2007 9:38:33 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: GSlob
I don't understand why people are freaking out over this. A hardcore conservative would never have won in California; Arnold isn't one, and he wouldn't have won if he was. So what's he going to say, "You shouldn't do what I did, you should be a conservative Republican."

This comes as no surprise to anyone. I don't understand people saying "We told you so"--who here thought Arnold was a hardcore conservative?

22 posted on 03/04/2007 9:39:18 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, Bostonian, Bush supporter, atheist, pro-lifer)
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To: GSlob

Believe what you will, he stole a Recall with his Q factor and not his IQ, has ran up the debt, pushed thru big chunks of the dem agenda, now sticks his knife in the back of the Ca GOP under the pretense of saving it when all he has done is use and abuse it, imo.


23 posted on 03/04/2007 9:39:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Darkwolf377

You like debt and socialism, move here.


24 posted on 03/04/2007 9:41:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't; I ain't.

But is it REALLY a shock that a Republican who became governor of California is not denouncing the socialist tendencies so popular there?

Besides, I live in Massachusetts, we have enough of both to go around.

25 posted on 03/04/2007 9:42:39 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, Bostonian, Bush supporter, atheist, pro-lifer)
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To: Darkwolf377

I'm with you on this one.


26 posted on 03/04/2007 9:44:35 PM PST by GSlob
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To: JHBowden

Arnie moved left, not to the center, and now we Californians again will pay the price for political expediency.


27 posted on 03/04/2007 9:44:48 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Darkwolf377

You suffer some but how would you like to see any hope for this state to ever get its stuff back together, short of a complete and total collapse which has only been forestalled and is inevitable, even with aRnie at the helm.


Not so many years ago this state had a chance to regain its sanity, all that is left now is the endless bashing by folks like you who seem to be quite complacent as to how this nation is moving left and with folks supposedly on the right help.

doesn't that concern you at all?


28 posted on 03/04/2007 9:46:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge
GOP presidential hopefuls should stick to center

Arnold said that? I'm shocked I tell ya! Shocked!

Imagine Mr Welcome Wagon for Mexico and all points South Schwarzenegger saying such as that.

29 posted on 03/04/2007 9:50:04 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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Democratic presidential hopeful, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Governors Bill Richardson of New Mexico (from left),
Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, Janet Napolitano of Arizona and Chris Gregoire of Washington are teaming up with Oregon.

30 posted on 03/04/2007 9:50:52 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, run for office - and may you be successful at it. One could argue that major re-tuning of the heads is possible ONLY as a result of a major setback or collapse. Even 9/11, although it produced a burst, was not sufficiently powerful to make that burst permanent. And undoing the 60s would take nothing short of a permanent burst.


31 posted on 03/04/2007 9:53:49 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

just curious, did you emigrate from a socialist country?

why embrace it and encourage its advancement here?


32 posted on 03/04/2007 9:58:33 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge
Schwarzenegger: GOP presidential hopefuls should stick to center

If only Arnold would heed this advice and return from the far-left.

33 posted on 03/04/2007 10:00:29 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Darkwolf377
is not denouncing the socialist tendencies so popular there

I'd be interested in some evidence for your assertion that "socialist tendencies" have broad popular appeal in California.

34 posted on 03/04/2007 10:03:13 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: NormsRevenge

From the ussr. and it does not need either embraces or encouragement. I'm so much of a right-winger that even my nasal septum is deviated to the right - but people would not vote for me, and I'm smart enough to recognize at least that much. As Berthold Brecht once said in another context, a government could seek a different people. Ditto here. You have existing electorate, warts and all. What that electorate is, determines what could be done with it. If you do not like it - go and seek another electorate.


35 posted on 03/04/2007 10:07:10 PM PST by GSlob
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To: ElkGroveDan
I'd be interested in some evidence for your assertion that "socialist tendencies" have broad popular appeal in California.

Since in every presidential race since 1988 the Democrat has won by as much as FOURTEEN percentage points; since it was one of the first states to legalize domestic partnerships for gays (expanded by the legislature, who were voted in by the electorate); and since it has a liberal democrat-controlled state legislature and keeps sending Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein to Washington, California has fooled me into ignoring it as a conservative stronghold. So sorry.

36 posted on 03/04/2007 10:15:45 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Old man, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey! ")
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To: Darkwolf377

You forget history over the last 26 years in California, including electing RR to two terms as Governor and 2 as potus. The cost of living was reasonable in Ca. during that period of time. Now it is nearly impossible for young families to live in desirable areas near the coast. A new couple starting out with combined income of $100,000 a year can simply not afford to buy homes starting at $500,000 or more in the coastal towns and cities. And irresponsible governments are just making it worse. Calif. is referred to frequently here on FR as the part of the left coast, a very appropriate description.


37 posted on 03/04/2007 10:16:11 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: gpapa
You forget history over the last 26 years in California, including electing RR to two terms as Governor and 2 as potus.

You forget RR governorship, in which he, among other things, supported legalized abortion.

The cost of living was reasonable in Ca. during that period of time. Now it is nearly impossible for young families to live in desirable areas near the coast. A new couple starting out with combined income of $100,000 a year can simply not afford to buy homes starting at $500,000 or more in the coastal towns and cities. And irresponsible governments are just making it worse. Calif. is referred to frequently here on FR as the part of the left coast, a very appropriate description.

Yeah--I was saying just that, actually.

38 posted on 03/04/2007 10:17:49 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Old man, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey! ")
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To: ElkGroveDan

PS--the Democrats being in charge of the state legislature for 48 of the last 50 years doesn't exactly sell me on the idea that Cali is misrepresented as Liberalville, either.


39 posted on 03/04/2007 10:19:13 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Old man, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey! ")
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To: GSlob

The sad fact is the bulk of the electorate wherever you go in the US is educated in public schools that indoctrinate more than educate. but thanks for the advice.

when parties actually align themselves with candidates that turn off more voters than they excite, is the candidate to be forgiven for then continuing to further alienate them by by pushing the other parties agenda zealously?

California is an experiment gone bad,, and not even a movie actor can change that, and now, has apparently given up trying to..


40 posted on 03/04/2007 10:21:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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