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1 posted on 03/04/2007 6:19:38 PM PST by Muentzer2005
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I am pleased to see this.


2 posted on 03/04/2007 6:26:12 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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bttt


4 posted on 03/04/2007 6:32:33 PM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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What is amazing is that the Left is putting the entirety of it's (supposed) credibility in this basket of climate fantasy.

5 posted on 03/04/2007 6:33:06 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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I've always wondered what caused the big swings in climate before man was even on this earth.

I'm just thankful I live during a warming trend.
6 posted on 03/04/2007 6:34:13 PM PST by kempo (blA)
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What Global Warming? Check this out.

http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/essd06oct97_1.htm

8 posted on 03/04/2007 6:39:36 PM PST by lstanle
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"Here's a reading by Charlton Heston from the prologue from Jurassic Park which is interesting to think about: BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Okay, we found this Charlton Heston piece. You people will remember this, some of you. Some of you will not. I forget what year. I think this is 1995 when we first aired this. On February 3rd of 1995 Charlton Heston called the program and wanted to read from Michael Crichton's prologue of Jurassic Park, and this is what it sounds like. HESTON: You think man can destroy the planet? What intoxicating vanity. Let me tell you about our planet. Earth is four-and-a-half-billion-years-old. There's been life on it for nearly that long, 3.8 billion years. Bacteria first; later the first multicellular life, then the first complex creatures in the sea, on the land. Then finally the great sweeping ages of animals, the amphibians, the dinosaurs, at last the mammals, each one enduring millions on millions of years, great dynasties of creatures rising, flourishing, dying away -- all this against a background of continuous and violent upheaval. Mountain ranges thrust up, eroded away, cometary impacts, volcano eruptions, oceans rising and falling, whole continents moving, an endless, constant, violent change, colliding, buckling to make mountains over millions of years. Earth has survived everything in its time. It will certainly survive us. If all the nuclear weapons in the world went off at once and all the plants, all the animals died and the earth was sizzling hot for a hundred thousand years, life would survive, somewhere: under the soil, frozen in arctic ice. Sooner or later, when the planet was no longer inhospitable, life would spread again. The evolutionary process would begin again. Might take a few billion years for life to regain its present variety. Of course, it would be very different from what it is now, but the earth would survive our folly, only we would not. If the ozone layer gets thinner, ultraviolet radiation sears earth, so what? Ultraviolet radiation is good for life. It's powerful energy. It promotes mutation, change. Many forms of life will thrive with more UV radiation. Many others will die out. You think this is the first time that's happened? Think about oxygen. Necessary for life now, but oxygen is actually a metabolic poison, a corrosive glass, like fluorine. When oxygen was first produced as a waste product by certain plant cells some three billion years ago, it created a crisis for all other life on earth. Those plants were polluting the environment, exhaling a lethal gas. Earth eventually had an atmosphere incompatible with life. Nevertheless, life on earth took care of itself. In the thinking of the human being a hundred years is a long time. Hundred years ago we didn't have cars, airplanes, computers or vaccines. It was a whole different world, but to the earth, a hundred years is nothing. A million years is nothing. This planet lives and breathes on a much vaster scale. We can't imagine its slow and powerful rhythms, and we haven't got the humility to try. We've been residents here for the blink of an eye. If we're gone tomorrow, the earth will not miss us. RUSH: Charlton Heston on this program from 1995 in February, and that's from Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park. He called here and wanted to read that. END TRANSCRIPT "


9 posted on 03/04/2007 6:57:47 PM PST by ventanax5
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If Christy figures prominently, then watch out. Considering how poorly his UAH group have done on the satellite MSU data interpretation, I wouldn't give his views much credibility. He didn't even discover his own errors, it was others who figured then out. He is simply not skeptical enough about his own work.


14 posted on 03/04/2007 9:07:12 PM PST by edsheppa
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I don't know much about channel4. I know they were involved with Venus, a truly disgusting film with Peter O'Toole, and that they were involved with the film about the death of President Bush.
15 posted on 03/04/2007 10:05:26 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown



16 posted on 03/05/2007 3:32:07 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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There was a show on the Science Channel last month about climate change, they talked about the sun, volcanoes, oceans, termites and all sorts of stuff that could cause the climate to change, but as to pay homage to the greens, the last 10 minutes of the two hour show had to show that the real cause is due to man's burning fossil fuels....what garbage...
17 posted on 03/05/2007 5:36:27 AM PST by SolitaryMan
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It is about time that we have started to hit back at
the Goreophobes !!!

I am still amazed at how little information has gotten to
the people.
Even people who you would think keep abreast of the debate, seem to be clueless.

This morning I listened to Art Bell on Kook to Kook.
In his annoying and pontificating manner, he revealed the
observations of a Russian scientist who has just noted that the temps on Mars are also above average, as if this was really surprising news.. Well Gee Whiz, that has been mentioned by many for over a year.
Bell, however, still seems to follow the lost heard.

Here in Slovakia, I teach English conversation to upper level executives, IT guys, and businessmen. Almost all have bought into the great GW hoax. I am doing my best to open a few minds.
18 posted on 03/05/2007 5:39:12 AM PST by AlexW
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"People like Al Gore jet about the earth, living from mansion to mansion and say that they want to drastically lower the living standards for most people on the earth. Then, the so called peoples's people, who talk about "eqality" the most, think this is just fine."


25 posted on 03/05/2007 7:15:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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Readers might be interested to know that the people behind this documentary are ex members of the UK Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP), who used to publish the magazine LM, once "Living Marxism", the official newsletter of the RCP. They continue to push the agenda they promoted within the RCP through the Institute of Ideas and the online magazine spiked. If anyone wants to check them out, try a Google search of "Martin Durkin Against Nature" (the title of another anti-environment documentary by this programme's director from the 1980s), or "LM group revolutionary communist party".

But don't take my word for it - dig around on the web and see what the Revolutionary Communists behind this stuff are up to, and make you own mind up about their legitimacy.


27 posted on 03/08/2007 3:18:28 PM PST by Lintilla
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I finally got around to watching this. I think it is excellent and recommend it to anyone. I’ve been following this topic and was surprised that the documentary addressed so many facets of this topic - those that I had become acquainted with, and several others.

I don’t think it has “the answer,” or even all the answers. I don’t think we fully understood the Earth’s climate in the 1970s, when Global Cooling was predicted, or today, when so many are in the grip of Global Warming hysteria. Clearly, the liberal politically correct global warming story is too simple. This simplicity makes for great propaganda, but poor science. This documentary does not make things simple. Things are not simple. I am impressed by all the content in this show. I don’t see how they could cram any more in the time alloted. If they do a sequel, they could address the Earth’s molten core. I doubt the core is a constant that can be safely ignored. I would have liked coverage of various long astronomical cycles. It’s just a lot more complicated than the global warming industry admits.

Should we change our lives because of half-baked climatology? Should we have changed our lives based upon Malthus, Marx, Keynes, Freud, and others? No.

28 posted on 04/04/2007 5:42:45 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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