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Is It Time For Conservatives To Get Vicious?
America Talks ^ | March 4, 2007 | David Zublick

Posted on 03/04/2007 1:23:17 PM PST by AmericaTalks

Is It Time For Conservatives To Get Vicious?

Two stories have surfaced in recent days which clearly indicate that the definition of what is considered viciousness in politics needs to be examined.

On his HBO program Real Time this past Friday, Bill Maher asked his panel why it was necessary for the Huffington Post to remove comments by readers regarding their disappointment that the recent assassination attempt on Vice President Dick Cheney failed. During the course of the conversation, Maher went over the top by saying in effect that the world would be a safer place if the attempt had succeeded.

Also on Friday, political pundit Ann Coulter, speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference, raised some eyebrows and a little laughter when she said "I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot', so I - so kind of an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards."

Coulter is taking heat from both the right and the left for her remarks. John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney have all denounced her comments. And of course, democrats are seething, although the Edwards campaign took the opportunity to raise donations, referring to contributions as "Coulter cash".

There is a tremendous difference between the remarks by Coulter and Maher. Maher implying that Cheney's assassination should have succeeded is by far more despicable than anything that Coulter could ever have uttered. Yet there is virtual silence regarding Maher's vitriol from anyone on the left, while Coulter has been getting it with both barrels from people on both sides of the aisle.

Perhaps it would benefit conservatives to start becoming more vicious. For far too long, those on the right have taken the high road when it comes to political discourse. Maybe we need more people like Coulter to start ramming epithets down the throats of these liberal monsters who have made the politics of personal destruction their mission. Maniacs like Terry McAuliffe, Al Franken and Howard Dean have lashed out in angry dialogue against conservatives virtually unchecked, while every comment regarding the left is expected to be couched in political correctness.

No more. It's time for the Right to get angry. It's time to roll up our sleeves and get down in the mud with these knuckle draggers and start giving them a taste of their own medicine unapologetically. Let's start calling a spade a spade and expose the evil of the Left once and for all.

I applaud Ann Coulter for the cojones she displayed in ripping John Edwards. I hope she continues to let the liberals have it at every available opportunity. And I sincerely hope more conservatives will wake up and start speaking out.

Ann Coulter...you go, girl!

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To: McGavin999
I can tell you are a nice person and yes I got the point of the article. I'm just sick of the hand on cheek response of people saying " Oh my gosh that is so beneath us". Hey, we live in a world of perverts and slime balls that are in high places and it is time to call them to the tarmac
61 posted on 03/04/2007 2:24:58 PM PST by jetson (II)
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To: only1percent

>> Ann Coulter is just visciously stupid.

Do you mean viciously stupid as in evil stupid or viscously stupid as in fluid stupid? Given her IQ is well above 130 and you still feel she is stupid, should we infer you're a genius?


62 posted on 03/04/2007 2:26:31 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: jetson

It's just the same as if our military were to resort to the same tactics as the terrorists. There are other ways to win, some that are actually stronger. We can outsmart them. amd I agree that we should be doing more of that, but become vicious and we lose way more then they do.


63 posted on 03/04/2007 2:31:43 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: Gene Eric

What really chaps my hide is hearing so-called conservatives/Republicans scolding Ann for being "vicious" -- just like DU. Seriously, they remind me of Nancy Pelosi.

I'm sick of it.

The joke was hilarious. We apparently have some nanny-grannies here who apparently have surrendered the battle of wits to the left.


64 posted on 03/04/2007 2:33:23 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: right wing

There's a really good reason why repubs don't form into "groups" like the dems do.

One of the basic principles of repubs is - INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM - meaning we don't like "group think".

However, there are times when STANDING TOGETHER is the only way to defeat the enemy. We need to do that more often.


65 posted on 03/04/2007 2:41:45 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: right wing
Is it time for conservatives to get vicious, hell yes, but I fear they have become rogue elephants who prefer to go it alone.

I have the impression that all we are capable of doing is forming circular firing squads.

66 posted on 03/04/2007 2:43:09 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: CyberAnt

Good point. The problem is that with Democrats while you are being truthful they are tearing you apart. Republicans are long past the time to become vicious, I believe it's too late to save the GOP from being eaten alive by the Democrat/Socialists.

You can't be a gentlemen with a thug. As someone said, never get in a pissin' contest with a skunk


67 posted on 03/04/2007 2:44:28 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: AmericaTalks
Conservatives have enough economic clout to totally overwhelm the liberal tent, if we would only choose to wield the power.

The kind of clout that a $2500 personal contribution times 10 million people has, for instance. That would be enough to purchase ALL prime time TV for three months straight, plus purchase tenure for conservative professorships at all the major universities.


BUMP

68 posted on 03/04/2007 2:44:54 PM PST by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: only1percent

But the only thing Edwards has is enjoying being a good looking guy. He has no ideas. So what do you attack. Why not point out that the only thing he has is being a good looking guy? It carried Clinton to the White House, because he had nothing else either.


69 posted on 03/04/2007 2:48:50 PM PST by InNeedofRWR
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To: CyberAnt

I think our side needs to have some hard truth tellers -- vicious, if you will. This doesn't mean everyone has to do it. Just a few. The leftists deserve to be villified and skewered far more often than they get it. Ann has called them traitors, liars, and worshippers of the state. So, she called one of them a faggot, sort of. Spare me the histionics. She is not speaking on behalf of all conservatives and the Breck girl deserves the treatment.


70 posted on 03/04/2007 2:53:42 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Pyncho
Reagan called evil evil and he made witty fun of government largesse. I think the problem with the GWB generation of conservatives is that we assume the other side really wants to play by the rules and seek mutual compromise.

We should make it very difficult to be a leftist in this country; we should begin making the left seem un-American to the electorate, because that's exactly what they are.
71 posted on 03/04/2007 3:03:53 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: Pyncho
I see Ann Coulter operating exactly in this way, plus she adds wit to directness.

Ms. Coulter too often drifts into nastiness, and humor driven by nastiness isn't funny.

One of the reasons I like Sean Hannity is that for the most part he tries to get liberals to say where they stand, and thus expose their absurd positions for what they are. I get most annoyed at him when he tries to talk over the people he's interviewing, though I recognize that sometimes that can be a result of technical issues.

One thing I wish conservatives would recognize is that a good conservative can score more points by answering hard questions than easy ones. I remember around 1992 Rush Limbaugh appeared on the Donahue show. A crowd filled with liberals, but I found Rush Limbaugh's answers on that show far more convincing (I was a liberal then) than anything he'd said on his own television show (which I'd watched on occasion but generally with derisive scorn).

72 posted on 03/04/2007 3:04:43 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: CyberAnt

No need to be vicious. What's necessary is to respond to the left's lies. They repeat gibberish as though it was the gospel truth.


73 posted on 03/04/2007 3:06:02 PM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: Theresawithanh

"Bill Maher is an idiot."

A repulsive one, at that. This garbage we had the past week about how it was too bad Cheney didn't die was, for me, the last straw. The left is stupid, repugnant, uninformed, disinformed, and dangerous.


74 posted on 03/04/2007 3:08:42 PM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: R.W.Ratikal; All

While I disagree only slightly with your premise that "it's too late" - because I believe in Jesus and He told me to believe, "It's never too late".

That said, your point (you cannot be a gentlemen with a thug) is well taken because I believe it's one of the reasons for Rudy's popularity. When he told the Saudi prince he could take his $10 million and put it where the sun don't shine .. Rudy gained a MEGA-sized following and it's never left him.

And .. again .. when Jesus confronted the Jewish leaders and called them "a brood of vipers" - He never apologized for speaking that truth about them.

People are looking for a STRONG MAN who will take the lead and say what needs to be said and let the chips fall where they may .. I don't mean spewing vicious hatred at other people.

But .. people (me included) are so sick and tired of the PC attitude and language .. and quite frankly, I've only seen Rudy and Newt step up to the plate in that regard.

I loved it when President Bush said, "Bring it on" - then he almost apologized for saying it and said it was his wife's idea to soften his speech. He almost lost me with that one.


75 posted on 03/04/2007 3:08:43 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt
NO! I don't think you have to be "vicious" .. just truthful and stop cowering to the liberal media.

Well put.

Besides... there's only one "Savage." ;-`

76 posted on 03/04/2007 3:11:09 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Judith Anne

"The joke was hilarious."

What joke? Coulter probably believes Edwards is a "faggot".


77 posted on 03/04/2007 3:11:26 PM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: popdonnelly; All

"What's necessary is to respond to the left's lies. They repeat gibberish as though it was the gospel truth."


Yes they do .. and just a few days ago one of their tribe was spewing the old and tired "Gore really won 2000" garbage.

Both reporters at Fox just sat there and SAID NOTHING. You don't even have to be a repub or a conservative to challenge such a falsehood.

I'm sick of it!!


78 posted on 03/04/2007 3:12:25 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Pyncho
Conservatives need not become vicious or nasty. They need simply to become direct and unapologetic.

What conservatives need is to become fierce, but do so without becoming vicious. Viciousness is driven by hate, and I would posit that hatred is often a harmful emotion and very seldom a useful one. One should be fierce in combatting evil, recognizing it for what it is and despising it, but that does not mean one should hate it and combat it viciously. Letting hatred into one's soul, no matter how justly despised the target of hatred may be, is a recipe for clouded judgement.

Or, to delve into George Lucas babblespeak, hate stems solely from the Dark Side of the Force.

79 posted on 03/04/2007 3:15:07 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: WashingtonSource

I think we do have a lot of them on RADIO!

And .. they must be doing a good job because the dems are talking about revising the "fairness doctrine" which would basically shut them up.


80 posted on 03/04/2007 3:17:58 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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