[Mr. Silverback]

I'm horrified by his immigrationstance as well, but I'm getting a little tired of all the whining and hatred directed at this man when he defeated actual open traitors to the United States in two straight elections. Anything but "Here's what we should do to prevent bill X or promote policy Y" is sounding like "WAAAAAAAAAAAAA" after years of Bush-bashing BS.

[Carry_Okie]

When one elevates what they do to the level of a moral crusade, one opens oneself to observation of the clear instances in which there is a total failure to abide by those principles.