Rudy's Reception (at CPAC)

Townhall ^ | March 3, 2007 | Mary Katharine Ham

[FairOpinion]

McCain-hating and Romney-bashing have been pretty much equal-opportunity pastimes around CPAC this year.

Rudy, on the other hand, has gotten mostly a free pass. And, today, his speech was filled to capacity with folks waiting in the hallway to get in. There were also dense crowds around all the TVs in the exhibit halls. The charm offensive is strong, indeed. People just love listening to him.

I took some video of conservatives quite mesmerized by the Mayor, so I'm working on getting that up. They were doing crowd control outside the hall in which he was speaking. Many of those folks crowding the hall are pro-life, social conservatives who just can't resist him, despite the policy differences. I don't think Rudy will remain unattacked, as he was this week, but the feel-good factor is big for him, no matter what kind of conservative he's talking to.

Today, he talked about leadership, security, toughness, and Reagan to a crowd who's looking for a leader in the image of Reagan in a time that needs security. It was a good pitch, and there were more people listening than have listened to anything at CPAC this week.

[narses]

LOL, try explaining instead why any conservative ought to support a gun-grabber? Or a babykiller?

Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

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Good point about Arnold... he was really wailed on.

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Keep spamming. Eventually someone will read one of your posts.

[narses]

Posting quotes and facts seems to bother the rudybots. Why?

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRY

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Nobody's stopping you, friend. Just keep the hate flowing; it does wonders for your health.

[Dad yer funny]

bookmark ping

[narses]

ROTFLMAO! Facts now = hate!

CNN clip

Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"

Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."

[narses]

Ping.

[FairOpinion]

Someone said hate is like taking poison and waiting for the other guy to die.

[Howlin]

I don't think I've ever seen this level of hatred for a Republican on this forum.

1999: George W. Bush.

By almost the exact same people.

[Howlin]

ROFLMAO.

[Howlin]

Can't handle it alone, I see.

[inkling]

LOL. "I need reinforcements! Somebody post a Rudy-in-drag photo, stat!"

[narses]

LOL, right. More groupthink from the 'bots. Hey and how about that gungrabber Rudy, y'all voting for him?

[woofie]

1999: George W. Bush.

By almost the exact same people
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My memory must be as bad as Libby's...maybe I was busy


What was JR's position?

[narses]

The differences between GW and Rudy are legion. Add in Kerik and it is game over.

I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp

[carlo3b]

I am sorry my FRiend, but I once read all of your posts and links to get a better perspective on your point, but no longer.. your obsession with bashing Rudy has turned me off to your posts and tuned me out to your argument.. I am now suspect of your motives.. I am only watching you to warn my many FRiends on this board..

[Howlin]

Struck a nerve, did I?

[Howlin]

Bump.

[carlo3b]

I am sorry my FRiend, but I once read all of your posts and links to get a better perspective on your point, but no longer.. your obsession with bashing Rudy has turned me off to your posts and tuned me out to your argument.. I am now suspect of your motives..

I am only watching you to warn my many FRiends on this board.. Rudy may not be my first choice, he is a patriot, and deserving of my respect, you on the other hand seem to have an ominous agenda..