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Giuliani starts strong in test of Republican voter allegiances
Washington Post ^ | march 4, 2007 | DAN BALZ

Posted on 03/03/2007 10:04:21 PM PST by FairOpinion

The man who was named Time magazine's "Person of the Year" for his response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks is now leading in a slew of national polls and testing whether cultural and religious conservatives in the GOP will support a candidate who offers strong leadership on security and terrorism rather than ideological purity on social issues.

Whit Ayres, a Georgia-based Republican pollster, said he has been struck by the number of conservatives he encountered who disagree with Giuliani on abortion or gay rights but are still attracted to him as a possible Republican nominee. The issue is whether that appeal can survive through a long campaign in which Giuliani's New York record, his position on issues, his three marriages and his complex business dealings will be subjected to withering scrutiny.

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll showed Giuliani leading McCain by 44 percent to 21 percent, with former House speaker Newt Gingrich at 15 percent and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney at 4 percent.

Many GOP strategists still question whether Giuliani can survive the scrutiny and develop a message that appeals to voters across the spectrum of Republican conservatism. In his speech Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, Giuliani highlighted his record as a tax cutter, crime fighter and welfare reformer. But he offered little resembling a traditional conservative agenda for the future, other than saying the United States must remain on offense against terrorism. The speech won a polite but hardly enthusiastic response from the audience of activists.

(Excerpt) Read more at unionleader.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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To: nopardons

Yeah, I realize that. I got the two names mixed up in my post between Rick and George Allen. It's 1:30 in the morning here so give me a break. Not everyone is perfect as you think of yourself to be. BTW, I could careless who takes me seriously or not. Half the people here don't even take you seriously so what's the big deal? Now go on back to spewing out your liberal propaganda.


141 posted on 03/03/2007 11:41:37 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Mojave

And of course it wasn't planned. After being raided just days prior, they just happened to have 2000 militant, homeless gays at the ready by chance.


142 posted on 03/03/2007 11:43:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (2/25/07. Never Forget.)
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To: oceanview

"Civil Unions exist in only three places: Vermont, New Jersey and Connecticut. In 2005 California created a domestic partnership law that offers many of the same rights as civil unions. Vermont civil unions were created in 2000 to provide legal protections to gays and lesbians in relationships in that state because gay marriage is not an option. The protections do not extend beyond the border of Vermont and no federal protections are included with a Civil Union. Civil Unions offer some of the same rights and responsibilities as marriage, but only on a state level."
Soource: http://lesbianlife.about.com/cs/wedding/a/unionvmarriage.htm
Cached by Google on Feb. 28, 2007


143 posted on 03/03/2007 11:43:26 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: dmw

Jim Webb ran in VA not PA


144 posted on 03/03/2007 11:45:29 PM PST by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: FairOpinion
Aren't YOU intersted in regaining power from the Democrats?

Oh yes!

We have to win!

Losing is not anoption! !But why are you so eager soearly to toss your principles by the wayside?

Maybe I'm jumping the gun here.

What are your principles?

What are you willing to give up in order to win?

Where do you draw the line?

145 posted on 03/03/2007 11:46:11 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: FairOpinion

"The MSM keeps harping on the issues that could divide conservatives/Republicans, because they know that the "divide and conquer" strategy is the winning strategy to put Hillary in the White House."

Looks to me like regular posters at FR are doing exactly the same thing--..."harping on the issues that could divide conservatives/Republicans, because they know that the "divide and conquer" strategy is the winning strategy to put Hillary in the White House."

It would be useful to advocate that once a candidate is chosen, Republicans unite behind that person, because that person will be better for the country than any democrat.

I intend to follow that path. Always have (except one time I regret, but learned my lesson from).


146 posted on 03/03/2007 11:46:15 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: nopardons
"Hillary, Hillary, Hillary"

That's where your making a big mistake... Hillary's not going to be the candidate on the democrat side. Gore is, and many will see him as being to the right of Rudy on social issues.
147 posted on 03/03/2007 11:46:38 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: texicali

You are correct. See post #141.


148 posted on 03/03/2007 11:47:34 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: nopardons



Duncan Hunter.


149 posted on 03/03/2007 11:49:33 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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Peroria=Peoria.

gungrabbin, homo promotin, liberty stompin fascist aint gonna make the grade for us. The libs hated Rudy too when he was in office. His heartfelt stance on 911 doesnt change the facts.

There are plenty of folks who felt what he felt on 911


150 posted on 03/03/2007 11:50:10 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: nopardons
you don't know a thing about Stonewall

Since you were obviously there on June 11, 1969, why don't you tell us what happened.

151 posted on 03/03/2007 11:51:20 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (2/25/07. Never Forget.)
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To: babygene
Hillary's not going to be the candidate on the democrat side. Gore is, ...

Either way, we can't base our candidate on who they will face.

What kind of people are we to do that?

Where are our principles? Our standards?

Why in the hell are we so asfraid of being what we are?

We're conservative, God fearing, hard working Americans!

What is wrong with that ??

Come on people! Stop being afraid to say it!

I believe in God! I believe in moral values!

Not tolerating immorality is not a bad thing!

America is great because Americans are good people!

152 posted on 03/04/2007 12:01:23 AM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: truth_seeker

"It would be useful to advocate that once a candidate is chosen, Republicans unite behind that person, because that person will be better for the country than any democrat. "

Yes, it would be.

But the Rudy haters are declaring that they won't support him, even if he is the Republican nominee, they will stay home, vote third party, some even said that even they they would actively work against him, some even said that they actually would prefer Hillary. I even asked the question, whether they would vote for him if their fav Hunter would endorse him, and they said no.

So how conservative do you think it is to help Hillary get into the White House?


153 posted on 03/04/2007 12:01:25 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Rudy also cut the size of government, did away with some affirmative action things, made vouchers and charter schools available, and facilitated more businesses to come to N.Y.C.!
154 posted on 03/04/2007 12:04:03 AM PST by nopardons
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To: airborne

Say it again airborne!


155 posted on 03/04/2007 12:04:18 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: nopardons

I dont wanna live in NYC


156 posted on 03/04/2007 12:05:16 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Mojave

I bet that you have NO idea where that picture was taken, nor WHY Rudy was in that SHOW. Hint, hint, hint............it had NOTHING at all to do with homosexuals.


157 posted on 03/04/2007 12:05:25 AM PST by nopardons
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To: mylife

Was that over the top?

I can never tell.

;^)


158 posted on 03/04/2007 12:06:37 AM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: airborne

I liked it


159 posted on 03/04/2007 12:07:20 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: airborne

What do you think is virtuous about handing the presidency and power over the US over to the Democrats?


160 posted on 03/04/2007 12:08:00 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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