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To: ZULU
I beg to disagree. MOST Americans are not focused on the Presidential primaries at this point, and their opinion of Giuliani has been formulated solely by 9-11.

I wasn't discussing Rudy at all. Of course it's early in the campaign, and history shows early leaders don't often wind up the candidate. This discussion has nothing to do with candidates, but with the issues Americans have.

They know very little of his position on a host of social issues which ARE and SHOULD be of concern to them. And I personally will do all in power to appraise them of them.

The point I'm trying to make to you is that those social issues that are paramount to you and many here on FR do not represent the issues of importance to most Americans. Yes, I understand the social right will continue to try and force their agenda into the campaign, but rather than convince Americans, it may well backfire, marginalizing the RR even more than it is now.

504 posted on 03/04/2007 7:42:39 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

Time will tell. But I believe the loss of Congressional seats in 2006 was directly related to the failure of the Bush administration to adhere to the philosophies of his conservative base - the people who put him in office.


508 posted on 03/04/2007 8:07:10 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: MACVSOG68
The point I'm trying to make to you is that those social issues that are paramount to you and many here on FR do not represent the issues of importance to most Americans.

You are probably right at this stage of America's moral and cultural deterioration, but we are still numerous enough to hold the balance of power if enough of us refuse to follow the rest of you over the cliff edge. Four long years with any of the likely Democrat nominees in the Oval Office may be enough to return some degree of reality to the FR lemmings who seem to be eager to follow their idol of the moment over the precipice.

I think I can speak for at least a few of FR's social conservatives when I say that we will never vote for any nominee the other side can put up given it's stance on virtually every moral and social issue. But we, or at least I, will never vote for a carbon copy of what the the other side is selling just because he or she has the "right" political label on the wrapper. Talk about your truth in advertising law, Rudy breaks it open wide enough to drive an Abrams tank through.

521 posted on 03/04/2007 9:16:52 AM PST by epow
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