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Overkill (New York Times defends Zumbo, Attacks FreeRepublic in Editorial)
New York Times ^ | 3/3/07 | NYT Editorial Board

Posted on 03/03/2007 1:13:46 PM PST by CondiRice08

A famous hunter and outdoorsman recently voiced misgivings about people who use assault rifles to kill prairie dogs. “Assault rifle” is a much touchier term. It is generally understood to be the kind of gun that soldiers use in wars and terrorists use on the evening news. But the gun lobby despises “assault rifle,” considering it a false, scary label tacked onto perfectly legitimate weapons by people who want to take away others’ rights. That is a debate for another day. “Excuse me, maybe I’m a traditionalist,” he wrote, “but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity.” He added: “To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let’s divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the prairies and woods.” Until he wrote that, Mr. Zumbo was one of the most admired hunters in America, a widely read magazine writer with his own cable TV program and lots of lecture appearances and corporate sponsorships. He of all people should have known that “ban” is the mother of all fighting words to gun zealots. His 250-word posting caused a huge eruption on gun blogs, and Mr. Zumbo instantly became their second-most-hated man, after the gun-control advocate James Brady. He lost his blog, was dumped by Outdoor Life magazine and was disowned by the National Rifle Association, after 40 years of membership. His corporate sponsors, including the gunmaker Remington, ditched him. His cable show was canceled. The N.R.A. issued a chilling statement warning Congress to take heed of Mr. Zumbo’s fate. By the time Blaine Harden told his story in The Washington Post, Mr. Zumbo was professionally dead. The paranoia and gloating that Mr. Zumbo’s name has evoked on gun discussion boards like ar15.com and freerepublic.com speak for themselves.p>

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: banglist; frinthenews; mediabias; zumbo
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To: JennysCool
"I have indeed! It's among the three zillion other lists on just about every possible topic here on the "gun discussion board"!"

That was my point exactly. The NYT has no idea what a real sourse of news covers every single day.

FreeRepublic is the "One stop Shopping" of news. Kinda like a Conservative Super Walmart for news!
41 posted on 03/03/2007 2:34:59 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......R. W. Reagan made me DAMN proud of it!)
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Dan Rather
Dixie Chicks
Jim Zumbo
Rudy Giuliani
42 posted on 03/03/2007 2:36:38 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Where I live we are still recovering from the economic devastation of the Civil War. Our unemployment rate is higher than average and our wage rate is lower than average. The great thing about a Chinese or Soviet-bloc SKS is that a poor man can buy one here for as little as $90 and go out and shoot a deer and eat for awhile

Yup, and they make a very good deer rifle. Ballistically nearly identical to the 30-30 lever gun that is about as politically correct as a gun can get.
43 posted on 03/03/2007 2:38:38 PM PST by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: CondiRice08

>“Excuse me, maybe I’m a traditionalist,” he wrote, “but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity.”<

...well it's too bad it's not your decision then eh?

Second amendment? What's that?


44 posted on 03/03/2007 2:43:19 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: tet68

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794667/posts


Hahahah, I think they meant a "Gum" discussion board.

I like Chiclets.


I think the above article is what you are looking for!


45 posted on 03/03/2007 2:46:34 PM PST by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: CondiRice08

As predicted, zumbo becomes a martyr for the anti-gunners. Thanks again, you stupid old fudd.


46 posted on 03/03/2007 2:48:23 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
"As predicted, zumbo becomes a martyr for the anti-gunners. Thanks again, you stupid old fudd."

The "Brady Bunch" were using Zumbo's words before the ink was barely dry.

Wait until the mean ole gun owners get a good whiff of the stench of Rootie Tootie's record and views on guns.
47 posted on 03/03/2007 2:57:27 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......R. W. Reagan made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: CondiRice08

"like ar15.com and freerepublic.com"

Fantastic. My two favorite sites on the web.


48 posted on 03/03/2007 2:58:37 PM PST by Radio_Silence
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To: Brilliant
Like who cares what kind of a gun they use bub? Afterall, the ground hog is dead either way.

I think using an AK to hunt a prairie dog is pretty stupid, but I'm not going to try to ban the practice.

49 posted on 03/03/2007 3:02:47 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: CondiRice08
But the gun lobby despises “assault rifle,” considering it a false, scary label tacked onto perfectly legitimate weapons by people who want to take away others’ rights.

Ah, no. Trust the pompous NY Times to get even that one wrong. "Assault rifle" has a very specific meaning and the firearms Zumbo was talking about were not assault rifles. The term that is contrived, meaningless, and subject to outrageous abuse by ignoramuses in both media and government is "assault weapon."

The confusion is natural enough - it's been a deliberate objective of the lying gun control lobby to confuse the two. An assault rifle is a rifle-caliber firearm with select-fire capabilities; i.e. is capable of full-auto fire. An assault "weapon" is anything that somebody who doesn't like how your firearm looks says it is. I realize everyone on this board knows the difference, but just on the off chance that somebody on the staff of the Times might actually want to learn something about the topic, there it is.

50 posted on 03/03/2007 3:06:19 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: CrazyIvan

I'll check that out. Thanks.


51 posted on 03/03/2007 3:15:30 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: CondiRice08

If you can find 2 people on the NYT who have any knowledge of firearms or have fired them I'd be shocked.


52 posted on 03/03/2007 3:19:27 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Disambiguator
1. A bullet fired from a bolt-action rifle in .223 that kills a ground hog = OK

2. A bullet fired from a semi-auto military-style rifle in .223 that kills a ground hog = EVIL. The gun and shooter are EVIL, and furthermore, a menace to society. The gun should be confiscated and the owner thrown in prison for life.

Got it?

And you are being paid how much by the groundhogs being shot at?

53 posted on 03/03/2007 3:20:34 PM PST by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: CondiRice08
Mr. Zumbo was professionally dead.

Nonsense! He has never had more professional opportunities than he has now. Zumbo can easily work this gig into tens of millions of dollars in speaking fees, consecutive NYT best seller lists, and invites to all the best parties in liberaldom.

Zumbo just strapped rockets to his boots.

54 posted on 03/03/2007 3:23:03 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Billthedrill
Billthedrill said: An assault rifle is a rifle-caliber firearm with select-fire capabilities; i.e. is capable of full-auto fire. An assault "weapon" is anything that somebody who doesn't like how your firearm looks says it is.

You saved me some typing.

To believe that the editors of the New York Times don't know the difference is to suggest that they should all be out of work and on welfare.

But it is more likely that they DO know the difference and are purposely obscuring the truth from their readers. For that they deserve to lose their jobs, to suffer tarring and feathering, and to be run out of town on a rail. For a ring-side seat to this, I would pay good money.

55 posted on 03/03/2007 3:33:54 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: seowulf
Those contrasting quotes perfectly illustrate how Waxman and his ilk are the lowest kind of parasite.

If our Founding Fathers returned today, the Republicans would be dragged behind the capitol and shot. The Democrats would next be dragged behind the capitol, tarred, feathered and then shot.

56 posted on 03/03/2007 3:40:39 PM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: CondiRice08

They must be hurting if they have to go after Free Republic to defend their antigun position. Is Free Republic that influencial?


57 posted on 03/03/2007 3:56:02 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Billthedrill

"I realize everyone on this board knows the difference ..."

Don't be so sure. I replied to a Giuliani supporter last night, who was claiming that Giuliani's position on gun control stems from the language of the 2nd Amendment, "Congress shall make no law ..." and that this clearly delegates responsibility for regulation of guns to the states and municipalities. Something tells me that this person wouldn't know an assault rifle from a bb gun.


58 posted on 03/03/2007 4:37:05 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Tinian

I am proud to have helped with the undoing of Zumbo. I wrote Remington immediately and got the response I asked for. He was Zumbo'd. Good.


59 posted on 03/03/2007 5:25:44 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: JennysCool
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60 posted on 03/03/2007 6:04:21 PM PST by Greystoke
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