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State Makes Big Fuss Over Local Couple's Vegetable Oil Car Fuel (Told To Pay Taxes on Fuel or Else)
Heald Review ^ | 3/1/2007 | HUEY FREEMAN

Posted on 03/03/2007 11:14:08 AM PST by Dallas59

DECATUR - David and Eileen Wetzel don't get going in the morning quite as early as they used to.

So David Wetzel, 79, was surprised to hear a knock on the door at their eastside home while he was still getting dressed.

Two men in suits were standing on his porch.

"They showed me their badges and said they were from the Illinois Department of Revenue," Wetzel said. "I said, 'Come in.' Maybe I shouldn't have."

Gary May introduced himself as a special agent. The other man, John Egan, was introduced as his colleague. May gave the Wetzels his card, stating that he is the senior agent in the bureau of criminal investigations.

"I was afraid," Eileen Wetzel said. "I came out of the bathroom. I thought: Good God, we paid our taxes. The check didn't bounce."

The agents informed the Wetzels that they were interested in their car, a 1986 Volkswagen Golf, that David Wetzel converted to run primarily from vegetable oil but also partly on diesel.

Wetzel uses recycled vegetable oil, which he picks up weekly from an organization that uses it for frying food at its dining facility.

"They told me I am required to have a license and am obligated to pay a motor fuel tax," David Wetzel recalled. "Mr. May also told me the tax would be retroactive."

Since the initial visit by the agents on Jan. 4, the Wetzels have been involved in a struggle with the Illinois Department of Revenue. The couple, who live on a fixed budget, have been asked to post a $2,500 bond and threatened with felony charges.

State legislators have rallied to help the Wetzels.

State Sen. Frank Watson, R-Greenville, introduced Senate Bill 267, which would curtail government interference regarding alternative fuels, such as vegetable oil. A public hearing on the bill will be at 1 p.m. today in Room 400 of the state Capitol.

"I would agree that the bond is not acceptable, $2,500 bond," Watson said, adding that David Wetzel should be commended for his innovative efforts. "(His car) gets 46 miles per gallon running on vegetable oil. We all should be thinking about doing without gasoline if we're trying to end foreign dependency.

"I think it's inappropriate of state dollars to send two people to Mr. Wetzel's home to do this. They could have done with a more friendly approach. It could have been done on the phone. To use an intimidation factor on this - who is he harming? Two revenue agents. You'd think there's a better use of their time," Watson said.

The Wetzels, who plan to speak at a Senate hearing in Springfield today, recalled how their struggle with the revenue department unfolded.

According to the Wetzels, May told them during his Jan. 4 visit that they would have to pay taxes at either the gasoline rate of 19½ cents per gallon or the diesel rate of 21½ cents per gallon.

A retired research chemist and food plant manager, Wetzel produced records showing he has used 1,134.6 gallons of vegetable oil from 2002 to 2006. At the higher rate, the tax bill would come to $244.24.

"That averages out to $4.07 a month," Wetzel noted, adding he is willing to pay that bill.

But the Wetzels would discover that the state had more complicated and costly requirements for them to continue to use their "veggie mobile."

David Wetzel was told to contact a revenue official and apply for a license as a "special fuel supplier" and "receiver." After completing a complicated application form designed for businesses, David Wetzel was sent a letter directing him to send in a $2,500 bond.

Eileen Wetzel, a former teaching assistant, calculated that the bond, designed to ensure that their "business" pays its taxes, would cover the next 51 years at their present usage rate.

A couple of weeks later, David Wetzel received another letter from the revenue department, stating that he "must immediately stop operating as a special fuel supplier and receiver until you receive special fuel supplier and receiver licenses."

This threatening letter stated that acting as a supplier and receiver without a license is a Class 3 felony. This class of felonies carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.

On the department of revenue's Web site, David Wetzel discovered that the definition of special fuel supplier includes someone who operates a plant with an "active bulk storage capacity of not less than 30,000 gallons." Wetzel also did not fit the definition of a receiver, described as a person who produces, distributes or transports fuel into the state. So Wetzel withdrew his application to become a supplier and receiver.

Mike Klemens, spokesman for the department of revenue, explained that Wetzel has to register as a supplier because the law states that is the only way he can pay motor fuel tax.

But what if he is not, in fact, a supplier? Then would he instead be exempt from paying the tax?

"We are in the process of creating a way to simplify the registration process and self-assess the tax," Klemens said, adding that a rule change may be in place by spring.

David Wetzel wonders why hybrid cars, which rely on electricity and gasoline, are not taxed for the portion of travel when they are running on electrical power. He said he wants to be treated equally by the law.

David Wetzel, who has been exhibiting his car at energy fairs and universities, views state policies as contradicting stated government aims.

"You hear the president saying we need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil," Wetzel said. "You hear the governor saying that."

State Rep. Bob Flider, D-Mount Zion, also plans to support legislation favoring alternative fuels.

"I'm disappointed that the Illinois Department of Revenue would go after Mr. Wetzel," Flider said. "I don't think it is a situation that merits him being licensed and paying fees.

"The people at the department of revenue apparently feel they need to regulate him in some way. We want to make sure that he is as free as he can be to use vegetable oil. He's an example of ingenuity. Instead of being whacked on the head, he should be encouraged."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: criminals; energytax; fuelfascists; statefuel; vegtableoil
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To: mnehrling
Hell, I'll pay this for them to reward them for their innovation...

If you do, be sure there will be an IRS agent ready to pounce when they do not declare your contribution as taxable income.

121 posted on 03/05/2007 8:56:52 AM PST by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - Time's 2006 Person of the Year)
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To: Mad-Margaret
Now, if I only knew how to run my car on cooking fuel...

Buy a used diesel VW or Mercedes. Live in a hot climate and pour vegetable oil straight in the fuel tank. Done.

If you live in a cold climate you have to heat the veggie oil or it will be too thick. That's when you run the car on diesel, heating the veggie with the hot coolant. There are kits available to do this (check http://frybrid.com for one ).

122 posted on 03/06/2007 8:45:22 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Farmer Dean

The new state motto should read"Let nothing of value go untaxed."

The Internal Revenue Code states something very similar, paraphrasing: "All worldwide income from whatever sources is taxable unless exempt."


123 posted on 03/06/2007 8:59:01 PM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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To: Wurlitzer
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124 posted on 03/10/2007 7:55:53 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: mrsmith
Cars using vegetable oil fuel (or whatever) have to pay for the roads they drive on. How unfair lol!

I only use toll roads.

125 posted on 03/10/2007 8:09:00 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (¡El proletariado del mundo, une! - Xuygo Chavez)
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To: alloysteel

You've opened Pandora's box.
If they want the taxes they get from motor fuels then why don't they allow drilling so we have a secure supply without giving so much money to other countries?
If they thought the situation out they would want to prevent us from all kinds of alternative fuels and keep us happy on oil based fuels which they can tax from the well head to the gas station.
Why isn't our representative government representing us with regard to transportation by keeping fuel supply flowing from domestic sources at lower prices? The fact that we are paying now again over three dollars a gallon when it costs less than five a barrel to get it out of the ground because the envirowackos have bent their ear is nonsense. We are paying billions out of our pockets to keep a few enviros happy.


126 posted on 03/10/2007 8:15:39 AM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Heck, all drivers only use toll roads.
Sometimes tolls are collected at toll booths, sometimes at gas stations, sometimes at tax offices... but nobody rides for free!


127 posted on 03/10/2007 8:32:53 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: umgud

Exxon executives?


128 posted on 03/10/2007 8:43:59 AM PST by TShaunK
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To: chuckles

I wish more people understood this subject as well as you do.


129 posted on 06/02/2007 8:45:58 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Dallas59

Hard working honest Americans are threatened with jail time for not paying a stupied fuel taxe while these POS illegal aliens skirt the tax laws everyday the the US governments’ blessing. This country is finished.


130 posted on 06/02/2007 9:00:57 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: Desron13
"Whoever sent the goon squad to this poor guys house should be immediately fired and bared from public office forever!"

A better idea:


131 posted on 06/02/2007 9:14:43 AM PDT by RasterMaster (BUILD THE WALL, ENFORCE THE LAW! Duncan Hunter - President 2008)
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To: all the best

The govt. was just as bad then; it just didn’t get the attention since all these stories stayed local only without the Internet.


132 posted on 06/02/2007 9:19:37 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Or at least only tell people who won’t tattle to the govt.


133 posted on 06/02/2007 9:21:34 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Dallas59
David Wetzel, who has been exhibiting his car at energy fairs and universities

There is a lesson here.

134 posted on 06/02/2007 9:24:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Yo-Yo
exactly, my brother who drives a Prius does not pay taxes for the electricity he uses. He also lives in Illinois. So if people use less gas they pay less taxes regardless of the roads they use.
135 posted on 06/02/2007 9:24:49 AM PDT by poinq
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To: patton

“Government is not the solution...Government is the problem.”

Mega dittos! :)


136 posted on 06/02/2007 9:29:08 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Amnesty alone didn't kill the GOP - socialism did long ago. The stench you smell now is it's corpse.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Um, most people who use oil get it for FREE from local restaurants etc.

They don’t buy it from the store.


137 posted on 06/02/2007 9:29:52 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Fat people are next. I see a tax on food in the future; first fast food, then convenience items, then lastly fresh fruits and veggies. Then those of us that grow our own food and/or have livestock will be forced to turn over our food to the state for distribution amongst the proletariat.”

If it gets close to that, many will find themselves getting into the lead distribution, and sadly receiving business.


138 posted on 06/02/2007 9:32:35 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Amnesty alone didn't kill the GOP - socialism did long ago. The stench you smell now is it's corpse.)
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To: festus

“IL dept of revenue sent me a demand letter stating I owed zero dollars and zero cents and threatened to size my assets salary and God knows what else if I didn’t pay it. They claimed I was past due on my $0.00 ...................

Took a while to sort it out.......”

You should have just sent them a check for one cent, and then a letter demanding that they return your overpayment or face a lawsuit. :)


139 posted on 06/02/2007 9:35:12 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Amnesty alone didn't kill the GOP - socialism did long ago. The stench you smell now is it's corpse.)
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To: Dallas59

Related article....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843692/posts


140 posted on 06/02/2007 10:52:13 AM PDT by RasterMaster (BUILD THE WALL, ENFORCE THE LAW! Duncan Hunter - President 2008)
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