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Computer Sleuths Try To Crack Pioneer Anomaly
New Scientist ^ | 3-2-2007 | Stuart Clark

Posted on 03/02/2007 4:30:53 PM PST by blam

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To: xcamel

However, that is not the case here. This pops up off and on about every two years here. :-)


21 posted on 03/02/2007 5:46:38 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: ASOC

This was noted long before that.


22 posted on 03/02/2007 5:47:29 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

that was easy ;-)


23 posted on 03/02/2007 5:50:09 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: RadioAstronomer
OK.. explain why it's "not true here", when the accretion of mass on any object, along with positive and negative impacts of that mass on the object in it's trajectory, effects every other object in the universe to one extent or another.
24 posted on 03/02/2007 5:51:02 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xcamel

It's natural for the spacecraft to slow down. It's been a long green flag run, the tires are worn down, the track is cooling & they're getting a little loose off the corners. Time to pit for new rubber.


25 posted on 03/02/2007 5:52:41 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: martin_fierro

The world does revolve around you.


26 posted on 03/02/2007 5:57:23 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is time to stop the left at the wall.)
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To: Tallguy

ah, but those variables were a known quantity, and part of the programed trajectory.


27 posted on 03/02/2007 5:58:08 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: spokeshave
Re: My asking where does your lap go when you stand up?

spoke's answer: .....global warming..?

That's only...
when standing... in her presence!

Well, for me that is...
28 posted on 03/02/2007 6:02:10 PM PST by Bender2 (Kate bakes my sail any day, any week...)
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To: blam

My uncle worked on a portion of the power system for the Pioneer probe.


29 posted on 03/02/2007 6:05:24 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: Bender2
Kate, the new frontier, definitely looking very pioneer probable.

Who needs space? The heavenly body has descended.

Nice Pic.

30 posted on 03/02/2007 6:28:29 PM PST by Candor7
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To: xcamel

We would see torques on the vehicle itself if the dust was thick enough to cause a delta-V. Also the instruments would have detected said dust.


31 posted on 03/02/2007 7:47:40 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: xcamel
microgravity would allow substantial amounts of material to accumulate under the right conditions.

Not with the mass of the probes nor the short time involved.

32 posted on 03/02/2007 7:49:02 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: Kevmo

At these masses and velocities, the fine structure constant is just that. A constant.


33 posted on 03/02/2007 7:50:05 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Cool. I was in the Voyager control room during the Neptune flyby.


34 posted on 03/02/2007 7:51:07 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I taped the PBS special on Neptune at Night and would actually watch it when I came home after work. What was it, 20 minutes between new pictures being shown?

My kids used to bring friends over just to laugh at their crazy old man.

What a difference in generations.


35 posted on 03/02/2007 8:27:15 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120))
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To: RadioAstronomer
RA, is not this same effect being observed by the Voyager spacecraft?

Speaking of which, as of now, (04:47 UTC 3/3/2007),  Voyager 1 is 102.03 AU from Earth, and 102.00 AU from the sun.

Voyager 2 is 82.619 AU from Earth and 82.112  AU from the sun.

36 posted on 03/02/2007 8:50:17 PM PST by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: zeugma
more Voyager trivia courtesy of Celestia, the universe simulator... (Free for Linux, Mac and Windoze)

Click HERE for what the solar system would look like from VGER1 if you could see the orbits of the planets from there...

To give an idea of how far Voyager 1 has travelled, consider that Pluto is currently 31.356 AU from Earth, and 31.273 AU from the Sun.  

 

37 posted on 03/02/2007 9:04:58 PM PST by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: blam
I thought this would be about how they stuffed a whole house full of furniture Twelve kids and a set of silver in a covered wagon.
38 posted on 03/02/2007 9:08:18 PM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: texas booster

Wow! How cool. :-) Glad you enjoyed!!!! Whoohoo

We used to watch the pictures being built pixel by pixel as the data streamed in and was decoded.


39 posted on 03/02/2007 9:08:32 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: zeugma

Indeed it is. I have the original papers on this. I need to dig them out.


40 posted on 03/02/2007 9:09:24 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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