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Subprime Crackdown
Wall Street Journal ^ | 3/3/07 | JAMES R. HAGERTY, DAMIAN PALETTA and LINGLING WEI

Posted on 03/02/2007 4:27:05 PM PST by BurbankKarl

Federal bank regulators announced a crackdown on loose lending standards on subprime home mortgages, as two major lenders struggled to cope with losses and regulatory problems.

New Century Financial Corp., one of the nation's largest subprime lenders, announced that it has been informed of a federal criminal inquiry into its accounting and trading in its securities. New Century also said that a failure to obtain waivers from lenders could prompt its auditors to warn of "substantial doubt" over its ability to remain in business.

Another big lender, Fremont General Corp., said it plans to stop making subprime residential loans and is in talks with various parties aimed at selling that business. Subprime loans are those for people with weak credit records or high debt in relation to income.

A proposed policy statement released Friday by regulators comes after rising defaults already have rattled investors and forced subprime lenders to be more cautious in extending credit. Subprime loans are those for people with weak credit records or high debt in relation to income.

"There seems to be a growing realization that not everybody can buy a house today," said Scott Stern, chief executive of Lenders One, a St. Louis-based cooperative for mortgage-banking firms. Lenders will have to tell some borrowers to save for a down payment, he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bubble; housing; housingbubble; mortgagelending; subprimelenders; toxicloans

1 posted on 03/02/2007 4:27:05 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Goodbye CA!


2 posted on 03/02/2007 4:29:26 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
The very word is euphemism for "bad".

"Would you like to sample my subprime cooking tonight?"

3 posted on 03/02/2007 4:33:22 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: BurbankKarl

It's too late. The time to fix things like this is before it all collapses, not after. At this point there is nothing to do but let the companies that engaged in this behavior fail.


4 posted on 03/02/2007 5:04:05 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: BurbankKarl
"Crackdown" verb: What occurs when the regulatory bureaucracy must finally deal with a violation of sound practice or close a glaring loophole that they have allowed to continue by their own inattention or lameness.
5 posted on 03/02/2007 5:55:44 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: BurbankKarl

I have been a bank credit analyst/officer for 20 years and have no sympathy for these clowns. The ethical standards I learned a long time ago still stand - giving someone a loan they cannot afford is bad for them and bad for the bank. Modern technology and every other advancement in service delivery do not change the basic principles of sound lending.

I have walked away from job offers from banks with "relaxed" credit standards and even left an employer who was becoming too aggressive. I could not look at myself in the mirror to shave every morning if I knew that I had harmed a customer by deliberately granting more credit that they could repay and cost them their business, their home and who knows what else.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 6:44:07 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: RebelBanker

Excellent post RebelBanker! All we needed to save all those thousands of people who will lose out would have been some ethics. Thank you for pointing out that most long time mortgage officers do have ethical standards and are proud of them.

Your words give me some heart that the crash, in taking down the clowns, will leave us some real quality left still doing good business. Thanks.


7 posted on 03/02/2007 6:55:30 PM PST by Borderline
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To: Borderline

We old-fashioned fuddy-duddies in the lending business tend not to make headlines, but we are still here to safeguard your deposits and make sound loans. The bank where I received my training traced its ancestry back to the first bank chartered in Maryland in 1797; it had been bought out and merged into larger holding companies several times, but there was still an institutional memory and tradition to remind us why we were in business.

I often joke with my co-workers by asking them, "What's new and exciting?" When they respond, "Nothing," I remind them that we are bankers and that exciting is NOT good in our business ;-)


8 posted on 03/02/2007 7:08:09 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: BurbankKarl

>>Goodbye CA!

Execution Reprieved!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794840/posts


9 posted on 03/03/2007 7:52:48 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: RebelBanker

Subprime lending has been around for years, and for years provided a necessary product - extend credit to people with overall good ability and willingness to pay, but were just a bit high-risk for Fannie and Freddie.

It became a "free-for-all" and that's where the problems started. Subprime lending became "lend to anyone who can fog a mirror" and like the kid in the 4th grade class who acted up, ruined it for a lot of decent people who DO deserve a chance at home ownership.

There's a big difference between:

-a couple with 10% down, a 32% total debt to income ratio, perfect rental history but a 594 credit score due to some past mistakes their credit report shows they've already made great strides in correcting

-and-

Joe Blow who can't prove his income, has $54 in debts and can't even pay that on time, has never rented...


10 posted on 03/05/2007 2:04:31 PM PST by RockinRight (My wish for Islam - The Glass Parking Lot Formerly Known As The Middle East.)
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To: BurbankKarl

"Federal bank regulators announced a crackdown on loose lending standards on subprime home mortgages..."

See how timely and useful government regulations can be?


11 posted on 03/05/2007 2:12:35 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: BurbankKarl

"Federal bank regulators announced a crackdown on loose lending standards on subprime home mortgages..."

See how timely and useful government regulations can be?


12 posted on 03/05/2007 2:12:42 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: RockinRight
Very good points! Unfortunately, too many people do not understand that there is a difference between "subprime" lending and "stupid" lending ;-)

Being willing to take a chance on a borrower who has had some difficulties in the past but has decent cash flow now is not unreasonable. Almost any kind of lending entails some risk. The trick is not throwing all your standards out the window to win the deal or deliberately extending too much credit as a means of getting hold of the collateral to flip it. I have seen both and they both infuriate me as a prudent credit guy.
13 posted on 03/05/2007 2:13:58 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: RebelBanker

I'm still more comfortable with someone with a 550 credit score and a 12% debt ratio than someone at 660 with a 55% debt ratio too...I still don't get how people making $50,000 a year survived as long as they did with $400,000 mortgages.


14 posted on 03/05/2007 2:15:26 PM PST by RockinRight (My wish for Islam - The Glass Parking Lot Formerly Known As The Middle East.)
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To: RockinRight

I hate credit scores. I look at actual performance and reasons for someone having good or bad credit.

BTW, the most common reason given for having a worse credit score than expected is catastrophic medical expenses. I ignore past collections, etc. from medical providers.


15 posted on 03/05/2007 2:19:08 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: RebelBanker

I work for a broker (don't shoot me) but I agree.

A credit score can be a guide, but only part of it. I too have seen medical bills pull a score down 100 points. Although as a broker I can't control what our wholesale lenders do, my comfort level is based on ability to pay, mortgage or rental pay history and overall profile moreso than score.

I even have no issue with stated income loans in the right circumstance - primarily self-employed people, but again, it's based on performance.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 2:21:31 PM PST by RockinRight (My wish for Islam - The Glass Parking Lot Formerly Known As The Middle East.)
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To: RockinRight
I have no problems with brokers, all part of the industry! I have worked for community banks for the last 10 years and most of our business comes from customers who will not fit in the boxes big banks use. That is part of the industry too ;-)

From your posts, I think we are on the same sheet of music regarding what constitutes a legitimate subprime loan and what is just a rip-off.
17 posted on 03/05/2007 5:10:55 PM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: RockinRight; RebelBanker

Home ownership isn’t a right, it’s a privilege like owning a car.

We’re renting our vacation home to a woman who lost hers in a fire. She knew repairs were needed but couldn’t afford them. Why she had no insurance is beyond me, though.


18 posted on 01/30/2008 9:36:24 AM PST by Froufrou
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