Posted on 03/02/2007 3:46:10 PM PST by areafiftyone
Well, you might be a bit "sensitive" perhaps. If the word bothers you, you might want to check your "thinking" vs. your "feeling". Trying to convince someone of the "rightness" of your beliefs might require that you hurt a few "feelings" now and then. If you cannot bring yourself to man up, then I suggest you might want to follow a different path. Your fight suggests that you will not actually fight. I don't need you in my fighting position. Seek life elsewhere where your feelings are more appreciated, you might be happier with the kumbayya type of folk.
In any case, it was not a true "name calling". If she had paused to call him a fagot in some kind of formal debate, then that would be silly name-calling. But she didn't- she used the term correctly and in her speech.
The "outrage" being expressed (largely false outrage meant only to impress oneself in the eyes of others) is that she broke PC Law.
It was a thought-crime... one that frequently gets everyone from Christians to Satanists beating themselves in comical, guilt-ridden penance.
Well, in fact, fags call fags fags, and as we have all known for some time, the N word is more often used by Ns than "Ws". And it IS liberating, and that's why they do it. I am happy to let them be liberated by their language, I stay away from it, knowing the repercussions.
In what universe? Ask yourself, how many people are going to decide they favor limited government or vote Republican because of Coulter's stupid stunt ? I've been at FR for a long long time and that more or less means I have very thick skin. So I'm not concerned in the slightest about getting hurt by anybody's debate. I just find name-calling useless other than as a means of making people feel better about themselves really cheaply.
Whenever possible I substitute "sodomite" for "faggot" is normal public conversation.
LMAO!
Hey its a free country if you want to screw a skeleton go ahead.
Look for Bill O'Reilly to have this in his talking points and act like he is above this.
Mark Steyn agreed with her on the 9/11 gals.
I've never quite looked at my wife as a 'skeleton'. And a personal attack on my wife's appearance by you is something that will not go un-noticed.
Ann Coulter, Republicans and Teh Gay
Posted by Dean Barnett | 9:13 AM
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/0addcf3f-a737-4982-98c9-0605cb71f6f7
I really dont feel like writing this essay. I was going to curl up with the Sunday Times this morning and cook myself a nice omelet. Instead, I find it sadly necessary to address the tired topic of Ann Coulter.
Ive received your emails. Ive read your comments. The verdict is undeniable many people who bothered to weigh in on the subject either didnt see anything wrong with what Ann did or didnt like my criticism of her. To tell the truth, most often it was both. My favorite email was the following typically thoughtful missive:
[Ann Coulter hit the nail on the head. John Edwards is a pussified a**hole and faggot. That's right, I wrote it and will say it in public. I don't mean it in the classic sense either. Edwards is an effeminate, back-stabbing, hide-behind-the-law, ambulance chaser who couldn't handle himself in a one-on-one fist fight. So, get your perfume out and go join him. Evidently, you aren't man enough to tell the truth either. You're just another neo-con hack who isn't worth his weight in dogs**t! Stop blogging because you're just making it worse.]
Why was this one my favorite? Because it was addressed to Hugh. Heh.
THE OBJECTIONS TO MY objections fell into three main categories:
1) Ann didnt really call Edwards a faggot.
2) What the left does is sooooo much worse. Rather than criticize Ann, Hugh and I should be saluting her for having the courage to fight back.
3) Ann can say whatever she wants. You know, freedom of speech? Besides, shes a national treasure.
Okay, taking them in order:
I dont think the first objection is meant as a serious one. Heres Anns exact quote: I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word faggot, so I so kind of an impasse, cant really talk about Edwards. Its too early and frankly I have too much writing to do today to seriously engage this objection. If you think that this is meaningfully different from just saying, Edwards is a faggot, then well have to agree to disagree. I know, I know - it was a joke. The whole point here is that it was an astonishingly inappropriate one.
I find the second objection even further off the mark. Yes, the left engages in hysterical, overwrought, inappropriate and offensive rhetoric. No denying that. I think I can say, with all due modesty, that over the years Ive made more of a sport of documenting these transgressions than anyone else.
The reason I document these things is because I believe they are collectively the smoking gun that shows how pathological the modern left has become. So tell me why would I support similar behavior on the right? Yes, Bill Maher did his typically brain-dead and offensive shtick on Friday. But, youll note, brain-dead and offensive arent terms of praise. Assuming one thinks that publicly using the word faggot is offensive, why would one praise Ann Coulter for doing so just because she has opposite numbers on the other side of the political spectrum who are also embarrassments to their side? I must admit, the logic here is lost on me.
An additional point related to this complaint for you political pragmatists out there: One of the reasons the left lost in 2004 was because of its sweaty embrace of Michael Moore. The hysteria of the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post are ongoing liabilities for liberalism. Im not entirely clear on why conservatives would cheer similar liabilities in their own ranks.
The final argument was the most ludicrous (although admittedly the competition was fierce). Many of my correspondents thought Ann should have been able to say whatever she wanted. To them, it was a free speech issue.
Yes, America is a free country. Obviously, Ann can do her Lenny Bruce-meets-Gordon Liddy edgy conservative comedy shtick if thats what floats her boat (and sells her books). But when she goes out in public and enters a mature forum, Ann has to clean it up. On Friday, she was speaking from a stage that in all likelihood also hosted the future Republican presidential nominee. This wasnt a college campus appearance. More dignity was required. Obviously the presidential candidates agree; they have attempted to distance themselves from Coulter, obviously failing to grasp the benefit of having such a putatively hilarious conservative firebrand on their side.
Determinedly clueless to the bitter end, Ann emailed the New York Times Adam Nagourney responding to the candidates seeking distance from her. Did any of these guys say anything after I made the same remark about Al Gore last summer? she asked. Why not? What were they trying to say about Al Gore with their silence? To provide the obvious answer of why her Gore comments went unnoticed, her Gore comments (which I dont have any memory of) obviously came at a less prominent forum than CPAC.
ONE LAST POINT, AND THIS ONE HAS more to do with conservatives than the outspoken pundit. A lot of people wrote in saying something like, Big deal. No one offended by the term faggot is going to vote Republican, anyway.
I dont deny that there are people who dont consider faggot an offensive term. Of course, there are people who dont consider kike an offensive term either. In our current day, the former is a hateful slur word just as surely as the latter is. If you dont agree with that, its important that you at least realize the following the offensiveness of faggot is a certain truth in polite society. And impolite society. And just about everywhere in between. If this comes as news to you, youve got to get out more. Dont quote me a Dire Straits song from 1985 times have changed. Its frankly an embarrassment that some conservatives are so eager and willing to embrace Coulters comment.
When Ann made her offending comment on Friday, it wasnt greeted by boisterous laughter as many of you have suggested in your emails and comments. It was greeted by uncomfortable silence. That spoke well of the attendees. The audience at CPAC knew that Ann had transgressed.
Some conservatives, or at least some of the conservatives who have flooded my inbox, think that her transgression was perfectly acceptable. It wasnt. The use of a hateful slur word in a public forum is beyond the pale. It saddens me that we cant have unanimity on such a simple and basic point.
As for me, in spite of all the thoughtful emails Ive received to the contrary, Im sticking with my original assessment of Ann and her joke: Idiotic. Disgusting. Stupid. Moronic.
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"...these remarks go directly against what our Founding Fathers intended..."
The "Human Rights" Campaign overstates its case.
Not doubting you for an instant, but if you can post a link or provide any other info, such as the bloggers' names, I'd sure appreciate it. This would put Ann's remark in perfect context.
So, we shall hopefully agree to disagree.
Ms. Coulter's comments are often not PC, and thank God for that. Personally, I think we have had a bit too much PC, and not enough truth. Go Ann.
I agree, its PC to make liberals out to be the "Idealists."
See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy that's his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot he's a millionaire
VIDEO: John Edwards attends to his hair (HAHAHAHAH) Posted on 10/19/2004
Just like her statement about Edwards and let me tell you I do not like him but she is nothing more an condisending loon. You mentioned you wife in your argument and I used it to show you that she is wrong. So if you have a problem with my statement you can kiss my ass. So if you have a problem with my statements which are covered under the first ammendmant just like Ann I have an eating disorder get over it.
This statement has nothing to do with Anns, or my wife's bone, or muscle structural make up.
You mentioned you wife in your argument and I used it to show you that she is wrong.
My mention of my wife was to point out that there are people who are created with bone and muscle structures out there who may appear to be thin to some, but are just right to others. My wife is considered healthy by the doctors. Using body types to "show you that she is wrong" in what she said is idiotic.
It's OK. You can admit that you are attracted to Lewinski type bodies. But to put someones body down as a point on why what they say is wrong is just plain stupid.
But what would one expect out off a "fat girl" lover.
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