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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
So, the NAZIs (National Socialists) thought the homosexuals were perverts... So?

No. No in two ways. First of all, I wasn't talking about the Nazi's view of perversion. I was saying that Shirer's landmark book used these words almost interchangeably --- homosexual/pervert and homosexuality/perversion. Sometimes you'd see one word used, and sometimes the other. What's more, Shirer's choice of words back then (late 50s, 1960) was not at all unusual. I was pointing this out to remark on just how low our culture has sunk since those days, with regard to what is considered normal and what is not. Nowadays, anyone questioning the homosexual agenda is considered the freak, on the fringes of society, the true pervert. After enough years of solid wall-to-wall propaganda, including thousands of movie scenes and tens of thousands of TV scenes, a message that was initially considered to be laughably wrong by 95% of Americans, is now considered unquestionably true.

Secondly, you brought up the topic of Nazi's and homosexuals with, "the NAZIs thought the homosexuals were perverts". No. That's only a tiny part of the story. The only thing concerning Nazi history that gay agenda pushers want you to hear about nowadays is that at some point in time, the Nazi's persecuted homosexuals. But as Paul Harvey is famous for saying, you don't know "The Rest Of The Story".

It was primarily violent street gangs led by homosexuals who put Hitler into power. Many of Hitler's top aides were homosexual, or involved with other sexual perversions. (Eg, Hitler himself, while middle aged, slept with a teenage first cousin of his, until she commit suicide). Shortly after Hitler got the Chancellorship - though still short of total dictatorial power - his top deputy, Ernst Rohm - the homosexual-in-chief of the Brownshirts ("SA" as opposed to "SS"), made the fatal mistake of publicly bragging that the German Army would be disbanded and replaced with a new type of armed forces with his Brownshirts at the core of it. This was anathema to top German generals. Hitler was worried, knowing that at that point in time the Army was the only force left in Germany strong enough to oust him.

So he made a Machiavellian deal with the army. For years, certain top Nazi sympathizers had complained to Hitler of the sexual behaviors of other top Nazis, and Hitler had always dismissed their complaints with, "I don't care what they do in their sexual lives as long as they do their jobs well for the party". But now, to appease the army, he suddenly professed to be shocked, shocked at the awful behavior of the entire Brownshirt organization. So in one night he had murdered all of the SA leadership. The German Army was grateful, and as their part of the deal they required each and every officer to swear personal allegiance to Hitler himself (rather than to the government, as was previously done). Since Oaths and Honor and Following Orders were a really big deal to Germans back then, this was a major political milestone for Hitler.

And of course after that, the SS Blackshirts methodically wiped out any SA Brownshirts who they felt might be a threat to them. The army realized too late what an awful deal they had made, after the SS replaced the SA as Hitler's personal enforcers. That's when homosexuals started ending up in the death camps in large numbers, wearing the pink triangles in some cases. That very end part of the story is the only one the PC historians will tell you about today.

Another thing they don't point out to you is this: If it's really true that homosexual death camp prisoners were routinely raped, just stop and think a minute. Ask yourself, hmm..... what does that tell me about (at least some of) the death camp guards?

170 posted on 03/04/2007 8:33:41 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
If it's really true that homosexual death camp prisoners were routinely raped, just stop and think a minute. Ask yourself, hmm..... what does that tell me about (at least some of) the death camp guards?

Who ever is pitching or catching is still on the same team...

172 posted on 03/04/2007 8:38:02 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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