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Conservatism: Willing to Surrender? (Everyone, Please Read)
Free Republic | 3/2/2007 | Ultra Sonic 007

Posted on 03/02/2007 1:04:18 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007

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Please be respectful.
1 posted on 03/02/2007 1:04:22 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Fierce Allegiance; 230FMJ; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; alicewonders; Angelas; ...

Ping to all.

Be nice.


2 posted on 03/02/2007 1:07:26 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Above-average grammar and composition, for a vanity. Help yourself to some pretzels and a Diet Coke!


3 posted on 03/02/2007 1:09:43 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every "choice" has a direct object.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I agree with Rush Limbaugh's position. He's very upfront that Rudy is not a conservative and that conservatism will never allow itself to be redifined according to the current political fashions.

But Rush still quite clearly does not rule out supporting Rudy. That's because every election is different and in some elections it might be in the cards to swing for the fences with a conservative candidate, while in another election, the smart move might be to try for a bunt in the hopes of keeping the inning alive.

A vote for Rudy to beat Hillary would be comparable to a bunt in my view. I'm not saying that will be the best we can hope for, but I'm pragmatic enough to know that it might be required. Just look what happened in the 2006 elections to conservatives like Santorum and Allen in key battleground states.


4 posted on 03/02/2007 1:11:19 PM PST by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
To me, Rudy with a conservative veep (to ward off a splinter right 3rd party challenge) could be a winner.
5 posted on 03/02/2007 1:14:08 PM PST by meg88
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
And what if it does come down to Rudy vs. Hillary?

The fact that the GOP has this little problem seems to indicate a serious problem. Call today's fight "soul searching" but I already know where my soul lies
6 posted on 03/02/2007 1:14:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Nice Post, I can't see a Protectionist Hunter being worse than a Socially Pliable Guiliani. Electability really isn't an issue after the primaries, because all of these candidates should back the nominee. If they don't they were always in it for themselves. Once the Republican nominee is chosen, we all have to push back against the MSM and their attempt to direct our elections.

Cheers,
CSG
7 posted on 03/02/2007 1:17:22 PM PST by CompSciGuy (Duncan Hunter for 2008 - no flip-floppers or RINO's please...)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Good points. Some Freepers should know better than to embrace the LSM anointed Rudy McRomney even before the primaries have started. Also, some sleeper cells must have been activated on FR, I reckon.
8 posted on 03/02/2007 1:17:27 PM PST by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: meg88

Rudy with anyone will send me to a third party.


9 posted on 03/02/2007 1:17:30 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Please be respectful.
***I respectfully point out that Rudy's positions can be seen in his own words, on YouTube, and that his supporters have been quiet on the thread set up to discuss the video.



Rudy Giuliani video on YouTube: "I would like to run on the Democratic line "
YouTube ^


Posted on 03/01/2007 2:53:19 PM PST by Kevmo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM


10 posted on 03/02/2007 1:17:38 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Hydroshock

Even Newt?


11 posted on 03/02/2007 1:18:08 PM PST by meg88
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To: Kevmo

I was just about to post that.


12 posted on 03/02/2007 1:18:52 PM PST by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The "All or Nothings" and Duncanistas on FR are would rather have Hillary as Pres. All in the name for teaching the Republicans a lesson.


13 posted on 03/02/2007 1:20:06 PM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
It's foolish to begin a negotiation by compromising. I'll stick to the more conservative end for now, and through the primaries. If Rudy wins the nomination somehow, I'll trip over myself to vote for him before Mrs. Clinton.

Unless and until that situation arises, I'll not support Giuliani.

Romney is my first choice, with Duncan Hunter gaining in second place.

14 posted on 03/02/2007 1:20:06 PM PST by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: CompSciGuy

There is no way I could iiin good conscience ever vote for Rudy McRomney. I will go third party.


15 posted on 03/02/2007 1:20:23 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A well said and reasoned post Ultra Sonic 007.


16 posted on 03/02/2007 1:21:27 PM PST by afnamvet (It is what it is)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A good, cogent piece. See tagline for my thoughts on the matter...


17 posted on 03/02/2007 1:21:47 PM PST by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: beltfed308
I would never vote for a liberal...Democrat or Republican. As for Newt....damaged goods with the morals of a Clinton.
18 posted on 03/02/2007 1:21:48 PM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: meg88

Yes.


19 posted on 03/02/2007 1:22:11 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
those who are undecided . . . are probably wondering about the rage.

That's me. It's sad to watch conservatives cutting themselves up. The liberals must be loving this.

20 posted on 03/02/2007 1:23:15 PM PST by colorado tanker
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