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To: Sunsong; Victoria Delsoul

I wouldn't say that they harbor a wholesale hatred for everybody, but clearly the worst suspects are inspired more from personal venom and other demons.

I think most of these folks have a sincere desire for people to live better lives because they know that their lives will be better because of it.

These same people also have a poor grasp of human nature, namely that good people are very capable of sometimes doing a bad thing.

For example, prescribing a policy that doesn't honor same-sex marriage is one thing. Extrapolating from that all sorts of anti gay sentiments is another thing. And when these folks see that not everyone shares those sentiments, they just can't seem to cope. I have often asked these types specifically what is 'conservative' about it?

I have yet to get a coherent, rational answer.


505 posted on 03/02/2007 11:32:49 AM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV
You are far too generous. If these people cared about others - it would come across somewhere in thier posts. What they care about is ideological purity and control. Their hatred and rage comes from their impotence in controlling others.

These folks really think that they are *entitled* to control others - even to the point of what they should believe. Just try to disagree with them about what the word *conservative* means.

There's no real difference between their desire to control American and the far left's desire to control America. They both think they know what's best for us and it's not personal freedom.

608 posted on 03/02/2007 11:52:36 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: HitmanLV

IF you believe, as Rudy apparently does, that being gay is normal, healthy, and good for society, then why would you oppose allowing people who were gay to get the government benefit of living together in a committed relationship?

He doesn't of course, he just is smart enough not to call it "marriage", although denying them the word "marriage" if their own churches will marry them seems awfully "bigoted".

There are a lot of conservatives who see that the gay lifestyle is a bad thing, but still think people should not be discriminated AGAINST because of that lifestyle.

But it is perfectly right and necessary for us to discuss openly, honestly, and frankly the harm to society caused by the gay lifestyle, and anybody who denounces those who want to have that conversation should be called to account for it.


728 posted on 03/02/2007 12:22:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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