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To: Jim Robinson; Peach; Howlin; All
FR is a conservative site. We fight FOR the first and second amendments. We fight for traditional American conservative values. We fight for God, country, family, life and liberty!

Could I address a question to you about how the fight should be waged. As an anti-Rudy who has addressed and won’t support the attacks made, particularly graphically, against Rudy supporters.

Since you mention the 2nd amendment, let’s use that as an example, it’s less controversial here, and a clear Rudy loser. I should note there have been a couple threads on which there were quite rational conversations, I don’t have the links handy, but maybe someone (or me later) will post them because that’s a better case for a factual discussion.

Rudy has bragged about taking 70,000 “guns” off the streets of NY. At least 30,000 of those were from newly minted “Rudy criminals”, law abiding citizens with concealed carry permits, which were revoked, making them criminals unless they surrendered their handguns. My guess the lucky ones who had the option of taking them to their summer home in the Hamptons kept their permits.

I’m not a photoshop person, if I was, how should I display this graphically?

Option 1, a picture of Rudy speaking, bragging about confiscating 30,000 handguns from law abiding citizens. Perhaps with commentary. I can support that.

Option 2, a pic similar to Elian being kidnapped, Rudy, jack booted thug, dressed in swat gear, grabbing guns from a citizen’s home (I can support the gungrabber charge) while kicking little children to the ground, as an accomplice (Kerrick?) molests the lady of the house.

Some people would like #2, I see it’s equivalent here every day.

Gun ownership is an important issue in America.

It’s one I think worth voting on. Many people agree with me.

The GOA has 30,000 members, a significant number.

The NRA, I’m a life member, 4,000,000, hopefully growing. Always in the top 5 lobbying groups.

Gunowners in America, estimated at 80,000,000 plus.

Option 2 might appeal to the GOA and some of the NRA members, and I’ll kick the number to 5,000,000 to include other gun owning groups. And I’ll assume option 2 will appeal to all of them.

Of course they’re probably on our side already.

My question is, not that we have 5,000,000 potential voters who recognize Rudy isn’t a gungrabber, how do we approach the other 95,000,000.

I would suggest option 2 isn’t the way to do it.

Anecdotal only. I don’t have polls, and I’m not going to pull out quotations about honey, sugar, vinegar, etc.

But I think it’s a mistake.

1,150 posted on 03/02/2007 3:01:55 PM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SJackson
"My question is, not that we have 5,000,000 potential voters who recognize Rudy isn’t a gungrabber,"

That's the problem. He IS a gun grabber. By any definition.

1,159 posted on 03/02/2007 3:06:19 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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