[I_like_good_things_too]

See, that's just the thing. When you call Rudy "liberal", your extreme rhetoric turns off any reasonable debate. I mean, if Rudy is "liberal" (or a "radical liberal" as he's been called by another), then what do we call Ted Kennedy? How do we refer to algore?

Words have meaning and you alienate yourself from reasoned discussions when you grossly & ridiculously overstate your case.

[EternalVigilance]

There isn't a dime's worth of political difference, other than a political label, between Rooty and Ted Kennedy.

[EternalVigilance]

Well, I guess Rooty hasn't drowned a staffer.

[NittanyLion]

I mean, if Rudy is "liberal" (or a "radical liberal" as he's been called by another), then what do we call Ted Kennedy? How do we refer to algore?

Well, if Rudy is conservative what do we call Hunter and Gingrich? Oh, that's right - extremists. Or at least that's what they seem to be called on a number of these threads.

The fact of the matter is that "liberal" is probably too strong a term, but a center-left accurately describes his position.

[CharlesWayneCT]

See, that's just the thing. When you call Rudy "liberal", your extreme rhetoric turns off any reasonable debate. I mean, if Rudy is "liberal" (or a "radical liberal" as he's been called by another), then what do we call Ted Kennedy? How do we refer to algore?

Liberal. See, it's not all that hard.