[Jim Robinson]

How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I'm referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I'm afraid that's going to piss off some folks.

[pogo101]

It's not really my place to say, USM, but I think JR means essentially that FR is a place that is usually Republican but only to the extent that such (Republican support) supports conservatism.

Of course no candidate, republican or otherwise, combines the perfect array of 100% conservative views with good speaking and writing ability, good leadership and good administrative skills -- and, unfortunately perhaps, good fundraising ability.

But the question always arises, Where do you draw the line? Is Rudy too far left to be supported (in the general, I mean)?

For some, probably including me, the answer is a reluctant no, a decision to go with "Democrat prevention." For JR and others, it's too unbearable as a matter of conscience.

[USMMA_83]

That's all fair and fine. So, you find a few posters here who are not your "die-hard" conservatives. Do you push them away, or attempt to sway them, educate them to our point of view? Your current stand only alienates them and then what do you achieve. A more conservative site. Yes, but a site that is no longer in the game. You are on the outside looking in. How does that achieve anything other than abject failure, albeit a principled one.

[NittanyLion]

We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I'm afraid that's going to piss off some folks.

Well said. I just kicked in an extra donation to FR, and invite those who feel the same way I do to respond in the same manner.

[Abundy]

Well, everyone has an opinion and we all know about opinions.

Time for a gut check conservatives.

While it appears on this forum that if one supports Rudy they are some sort of treasonous liberal, however, on the other hand if one opposes Rudy then one is casting a vote for Hitlery.

Here's the real bottom line: (and F#@K all of you "realpolitick" hacks - you've brought us to the abyss)

Is the litmus test to be a loyal Republican that one votes for the anointed candidate regardless of the effect on one's conscience; or should the litmus test be that a true Republican votes their conscience regardless of the effect on the Party's anointed candidate?