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Strategies for a Bold Conservative Future
conservativesbetrayed.com ^ | March 1, 2007 | Richard A. Viguerie CPAC Speech

Posted on 03/02/2007 4:16:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: NittanyLion
So I see you don't like Viguerie.

I don't like crybabies who continue to allow #3:

3. Conservatives should do this within the GOP, but not allow the GOP to bully us
To go unnoticed.

Number 3 is the most important in my view.

Follow through with that, and the other two become much easier to deal with.

The media has already engrained in the public perception that Conservatives are cold, heartless, right winged radicals. It's up to Conservatives to define who they are. Not liberals.

21 posted on 03/02/2007 5:09:14 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Jim Robinson

No longer think of yourself as a Republican, but as a Reagan conservative.

Done that. Great post!!

22 posted on 03/02/2007 5:09:30 AM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

"My strong recommendation is to stop bitching and do something."

We're trying friend, however, right now we got our hands full just trying to convince so called "conservatives" here to realize that Rudy is not the conservative many people here think he is. As long as "conservatives" are going to promote candidates like Rudy it makes our job a lot harder. Regardless, we will continue to "do something" and yes, we will bitch along the way.


23 posted on 03/02/2007 5:10:35 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Let’s re-launch the conservative movement.

Let’s act independently of the Republican Party and their failed big government leadership.

Let’s focus on the conservative movement, not the GOP.

Fine by me.

Let’s withhold support from all Republican National Committees because they spend our money in primaries to defeat conservatives.

Let’s withhold support from most Republican elected officials, supporting only those few principled conservatives

Let’s challenge in primaries all establishment big government Republicans and Democrats at the National, state, and local levels.

Let’s run principled conservatives for local, state, and national party offices.

I congratulate CPAC for not having the Chairman of the Republican National Committee at CPAC for the first time in memory.

And conservatives—this is important – for the time being, we should withhold our support from all of the top tier 2008 Presidential wannabees.

Not a one of them deserves our support today.

A home run if you ask me.

L

24 posted on 03/02/2007 5:11:39 AM PST by Lurker (Calling islam a religion is like calling a car a submarine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for posting this.

I fear that there are far fewer of us than previously thought.


25 posted on 03/02/2007 5:12:16 AM PST by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Lurker
I beg to differ.

OK.

What's your theory about what changed between 1964 and 1980?

26 posted on 03/02/2007 5:14:47 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Robinson

That's right on Jim, but sadly, many here think that getting a liberal republican elected is somehow going to help our conservative cause down the road. I say it's just going to make it that much harder to turn the tide back in our direction if we do that. Why is that so hard for some here to understand that?


27 posted on 03/02/2007 5:17:06 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Jim Noble
Reagan actually stumped for Goldwater and delivered his famous A Time For Choosing speech when he did it.

L

28 posted on 03/02/2007 5:19:04 AM PST by Lurker (Calling islam a religion is like calling a car a submarine.)
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To: dmw

Work harder. We got our work cut out for us. Conservatism is being defined by the liberal media once again.


29 posted on 03/02/2007 5:19:16 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Lurker
Reagan actually stumped for Goldwater and delivered his famous A Time For Choosing speech when he did it.

I know that.

I'm not talking about what Reagan did, I want to know what you think about what the VOTERS did.

Do you seriously believe the message the voters sent in 1980 was ,"we made a mistake in 1964, send us more Goldwaters"?

30 posted on 03/02/2007 5:22:46 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"Work harder. We got our work cut out for us. Conservatism is being defined by the liberal media once again."

You are absolutely right BSF. But don't discount the fact that many republicans on this very forum are trying to redefine conservatism as well. I fear more for what is happening in our own house than I do outside of our house. As the saying goes, "A house divided against itself cannot stand". I fear we have a divided house right now.
31 posted on 03/02/2007 5:24:40 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dmw
Why is that so hard for some here to understand that?

Two reasons:

1. They think of politics as a game to be won or lost, not a long struggle to advance or maintain our principles

2. They lack confidence that conservative principles can be sold to the general public, quite possibly because they've not devoted the necessary time to consider why these principles are correct

32 posted on 03/02/2007 5:26:26 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: dmw

The house will stand, but it'll be all one or all the other.

Preferably not the other.


33 posted on 03/02/2007 5:29:02 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Doesn't anyone have anything new to add, besides the old lack of values combined with big spending that costs Republicans their seats?

Too much subjective opinion from people who are mad and disillusioned because they lost control of something they never had--the GOP.


34 posted on 03/02/2007 5:36:19 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: Jim Robinson

Great post -- and good ideas.


35 posted on 03/02/2007 5:40:06 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: dmw
I'm more interested in defeating liberalism, bringing in more people into the ranks, instead of engaging in childish "My Conservatism is better than yours" kind of crap, day in and day out.

I don't believe Conservatism is monolithic. My definition of Conservatism is not the same as the next person's. I also don't believe we should just sit idly by while our sworn enemies define who we are.

Reagan wouldn't have won a landslide in 1984 by calling fellow Republican's that they were spineless, mealy-mouthed RINO's, or fellow American's in flyover space that they were toothless hayseed Bible-thumping hicks. Reagan wouldn't have won in a landslide believing in the all or nothing mentality. Reagan wouldn't have won as a third party type either for that matter.

There has to be some certain bit of compromise. Reagan demonstrated that well. Destroying the Republican party or each other won't get us anywhere fast, seems too many are hellbent on doing more of that instead of advancing Reagan's idea of Conservatism.

36 posted on 03/02/2007 5:40:12 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Conservatives seem to believe they had control of the GOP and somehow lost it thanks to "RINOs" in 2006. As long as they continue to misidentify the reasons why Republicans didn't win big, not much will change.


37 posted on 03/02/2007 5:43:09 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: B-Chan

agree...bttt


38 posted on 03/02/2007 5:43:22 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!...)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; tkathy
Voting for Guiliani will give us more of this:

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

39 posted on 03/02/2007 5:45:07 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I'm with it.

Gonna be hard to avoid the third party thing, though, if the GOP becomes the Giuliani/Romney/Schwarzeneggar "post-partisan" Unprincipled Party.

Job One is to keep that from happening.


40 posted on 03/02/2007 5:46:34 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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