Giuliani leads in Spartanburg County straw poll (Duncan Hunter is 2nd)

Contra Costa TImes ^ | March 1, 2007 | AP

[FairOpinion]

With 71 of 75 precincts reporting, Giuliani had garnered 123 votes. California Rep. Duncan Hunter was running in second place, with 110 votes, and Arizona Sen. John McCain at 86 votes, according to county GOP officials.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney had 59 votes, Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback had 68 votes and Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee rounded out the front-runners, with 18 votes.

[FairOpinion]

But Rudy still won. :)

[Carry_Okie]

Of course Duncan Hunter did well. That's because only political junkies like FReepers are involved in this poll.

Guess who gets out the vote?

[PerConPat]

Nobody expected Hunter to be even visible.

Yes, and in all fairness, would hardly anyone in South Carolina, or anywhere else outside of San Diego County for that matter, have known who Duncan Hunter was less than two months ago? There is something to be said for his message. And if he has a penchant for fair trade, does this not have some possibility of appealing to segments of the say the Midwest just as it might have done in South Carolina?

[TheGrayGhost]

A BIG part of the war on terror requires that we control and secure our borders.

I think Hunter, McCain, and most of the rest of the GOP field are just as tough on the war on terror as Guilliani but several of them are also right on immigration and moral issues.

The Guilliani supporters are sayinh he is the only person to beat Hillary. To which I reply, exactly why is electing our liberal better than electing their liberal?

And you appear to make the statement that only Giuilliani, out of the whole GOP field would prosecute the war on terror. I simply do not believe that!!

I will concede, Giuilliani is right on the war. But surely you know, so is the rest of the GOP field with the possible exception of Texas Congressman Ron Paul who is a former Libertarian Party presidential candidate.

Bottom line is Giuilliani is right on one issue, dead wrong on several others but does have the most name ID.

[Sunsong]

Yes, I mean NOT react to the background noise - or change the channel - or send the kids out to play - or whatever(s).

[FairOpinion]

I was watching Hannity & Colmes for a bit and Colmes was telling people how Rudy is not conservative enough for Republicans or something to that effect. When Democrats are telling us who is or isn't conservative enough for us, you know they are terrified of Rudy, because he is the only Republican who can beat Hillary.

And any conservative who listens to leftists telling them who is or isn't conervative enough for them need their head examined.

[FairOpinion]

"Guess who gets out the vote?"


Not the grassroots conservatives, that's for sure. -- they couldn't manage to even get McClintock elected Lt. Gov in CA. That was a real great effective grass roots GOTV, wasn't it? (/sarc)

[nopardons]

Very few people ever vote in FR's polls.

And the ones you see with 5,000 votes, INCLUDE members and nonmembers, over months and months of being up.

Yes, supposedly FR has a membership of something OVER 200,000.

[Sunsong]

Ok.

It's very early yet. I'm just talking about what we were told by the so-called *experts* here(s).

You've got to give credit to Hunter for camping out in SC. Apparently Rudy didn't. And he still won. To me that's pretty big news. But as I say, it's very early right now.

I'm interested in what Rudy has to say tommorrow at CPAC.

[Nam Vet]

Personally, I take this as good news. If Duncan can keep any kind of momentum going, it will bode well for his recognition as a Conservative and will set him apart from the herd on the national stage.

Nam Vet

[Barrett 50BMG]

I was watching Hannity & Colmes for a bit and Colmes was telling people how Rudy is not conservative enough for Republicans or something to that effect. When Democrats are telling us who is or isn't conservative enough for us, you know they are terrified of Rudy, because he is the only Republican who can beat Hillary.

You are a smart person. "HA!" I was watching that also, the guy he was talking to from the "straw poll" was like.. "uhh Alan" LOL I was like *HA!!!* Laughing my bu*T! off!

[chuckles]

..."Rudy doing well in the Bible Belt is a good sign"...

All I can say is I'm in the Bible belt and Rudy ain't gonna make it. I don't trust the outcome of a southern state that says there is no second amendment, stool pushers should get married, and babies should die because mother is a crack ho.

We went through this for decades with the Rockerfella Republicans and I don't think we'll go back.

If Rudy wins the primary, Hitlery will be prez. I don't like it, I don't want it, but that's the gist of it. There will be many no shows on election day. The Repubs better find a candidate quick because the top 3 ain't it. If it were today for me, it would be Duncan Hunter. Supposedly he doesn't stand a chance. He better, or somebody better step up. If Newt runs, I'll vote for Newt. If Thompson runs, I'll at least listen. To me, a ringer would be Swartzkof or Tommy Franks.

[Barrett 50BMG]

The Guilliani supporters are sayinh he is the only person to beat Hillary. To which I reply, exactly why is electing our liberal better than electing their liberal?

Rudy is the ONLY GOP candidate that can win the election AND after that, get good judges CONFIRMED. All the rest of them will never have enough capitol to get ANY good judges confirmed.

[TheGrayGhost]

ROFLMAO?

I am fairly bright, but don't have a clue on this one.

How about breaking that particular acronym into plain English for the old Sarge?

[NinoFan]

Well, see, when you make it that black-and-white, then yes, it's downright confusing, and no, it doesn't fit any of the stereotypical boxes. There's the fact that Greenville has several religious schools, including one of the most famous in the country. There's the fact that there's been major changes in terms of economics/business in the past few years. In other words, the history has a lot to do with it, and certain aspects have changed faster than their normally associated characteristics have.

Anyway, as for Lindsay Graham, born in another part of the Upstate, but yes, politically pretty much from the Greenville and the sourrounding areas.

[do the dhue]

Rudy on abortion:

Pro-choice; no ban on partial-birth abortions

“I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said.

He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded.

Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999

on the issues

Ronald Reagan:

Opposed abortion, on fundamentalist grounds One focus of the Reagan administration from the beginning was an agenda of social issues ranging from opposition to abortion to support for mandatory prayer in the public schools. Much of the social agenda of the conservative fundamentalist supporters of the president was adopted by the executive branch, but Reagan had little success in gaining its acceptance by Congress. Source: Grolier Encyclopedia on-line, “The Presidency” Dec 25, 2000

Allowed abortion as CA Gov.; didn’t push pro-life as Pres. Reagan was not as obsessive about anti-abortion legislation as he often seemed. Early in his California governorship he had signed a permissive abortion bill that has resulted in more than a million abortions. Afterward, he inaccurately blamed this outcome on doctors, saying that they had deliberately misinterpreted the law. When Reagan ran for president, he won backing from pro-life forces by advocating a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother. Reagan’s stand was partly a product of political calculation, as was his tactic after he was elected of addressing the annual pro-life rally held in Washington by telephone so that he would not be seen with the leaders of the movement on the evening news. While I do not doubt Reagan’s sincerity in advocating an anti-abortion amendment, he invested few political resources toward obtaining this goal. Source: The Role of a Lifetime, by Lou Cannon, p. 812 Jul 2, 1991

Abortion on demand must be outlawed

Abortion on demand now takes the lives of up to one and a half million unborn children a year. Human life legislation ending this tragedy will someday pass the Congress, and you and I must never rest until it does. Source: Speech in Orlando Florida Mar 8, 1983

Reagan on abortion

What am I supposed to think?

[Politicalmom]

It is a lot easier to scroll through the chart than a one sentence post. By time you realize what it is, you are finished reading it. :)

[FairOpinion]

http://www.netlingo.com/lookup.cfm?term=ROTFLMAO

[TheGrayGhost]

Like I said before, I respectfully disagree. Since Giulliani is too dumb to understand "shall not be infringed" I sure as hell don't want him appointing federal judges.

Last time I read the constitution, it is the Senate that does the confirmation. We need to regain the GOP majority there and work like hell to see Hunter, Newt, Fred Thompson, or absolutely anybody except Giulliani or Hillary is appointing the federal judges for the Senate to confirm.

Giulliani on terror is his strong point; him appointing federal judges scares the crap out of me!

[TheGrayGhost]

ROTFLMAO

OK. I learned something new. That's a very good thing, as Martha Stewart says.

Thanks.