Posted on 02/28/2007 8:47:27 AM PST by pissant
Dear babygene, 
 
"'How conservative of Mr. Giuliani' 
 
"uh... He's not." 
 
That's not what the rudybots are telling us. 
 
 
sitetest
 ..yes, this is definitely a conservative move... /sarcasm
To quote the Rudybots: 
 
"But this is old news -- this was March, 2000. Rudy is a conservative now!" 
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Apparently the rudybots and the romneybots speak the same language. 
 
As John Gorka once wrote "if it's all in the past, why doesn't it stay there?"
 I suppose this legislation never got enacted, as 9/11 did occur in NYC.
Do you suppose the relevant authorities in NYC considered the 9/11 attacks a "hate crime"?
From the sounds of the press release, it was imminent.
Ah, the Deacons of Defense, IIRC.
Actually, I'm all for "love crime" legislation. Like if you kill someone but you really liked him, you get a lesser sentence.
Dear babygene, 
 
I wouldn't vote for Al Gore, but neither would I vote for Mr. Giuliani. 
 
If it's Giuliani vs. Gore, or vs. Clinton, or vs. just about any other Dem on the horizon, I'll be looking at the different third parties. 
 
Ironically, when Mr. Gore first ran for the presidency in 1988, he positioned himself as a moderately-conservative Dem. He'd previously been adamantly pro-life, but had switched by the time of the 1988 election (if I remember correctly), but didn't mind letting the impression that he was still pro-life linger in the minds of conservative Democrats. 
 
Of course, now he's a pretty doctrinaire liberal, and a nutjob, as well. 
 
 
sitetest
"how liberal you are." =how liberal you are doesn't seem to matter.
If NYC can commit funds for BS like this, they can quit whining about being at the back of the line for Homeland Defense funds.
I like that....
Really? Does the Congressman not realize that our laws already recognize differing degrees of murder? Premediated murder is always treated more harshly than murder resulting from the heat of the moment.
It is a good thing for Congressman Duncan that he didn't say this in a debate with Rudy because Rudy would have ripped him a new one.
Rudy could score some political points by making it clear that hate crimes will be applied even-handedly. "Wilding" against whites is just as repulsive as a group of whites lynching someone. Racial bigotry goes both directions and if one direction is punished under the law, then the other should be as well.
John Gorka is a folk singer. Those are people who serenade Bill O'Reilly's constituency.
BS. Hate crime is thought crime. Differing degrees of murder have to do with intent, premeditation, and such.
Racial bigotry in private life is NOT against the law and never should be. Acting on that bigotry to harm someone is.
Here it tis from the Great One, Mark Levin: 
 
There is actually very little that's conservative about Giuliani, other than his law-enforcement record. Yes, he made the trains run on time, but some of his supporters are willing to write-off large segments of the conservative coalition, which are not found in New York City or the District of Columbia, with their wave-of-the-hand dismissal of serious issues Giuliani will have to overcome. But please, spare us the fiction that he's some great conservative. If I vote for him, it will be because all the Democrats are so deplorable, not because of his embrace of radical environmentalism, open borders, gun control, abortion, and the rest of it. And, yes, he's leading in national popular polls. But that's not how nominees are selected, is it. You have to battle in each state, and the process is full of unexpected political dangers. So, I'd say it's a little early to declare a winner. It's painful to watch people pretend that Giuliani is something he is not and never has been. 
 
http://levin.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzhiNWNiNGJlNDhjNjA4YzYzZDZkMWJkMTQwYWMwNTY=
Now, now...Take a sip of Kool-Aid and repeat after me, "Rudy is conservative, Rudy can beat Hillary." Now, don't you see that hate crime legislation is really a conservative idea? So is gun control, the idea of man-made global warming, abortion on demand and the homosexual agenda.
Yup.
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