Posted on 02/28/2007 3:12:47 AM PST by markomalley
I'm sarcastic as well as persistent.
I cast no doubt on your "exploding womb" statement. Unfortunately, those who might need it most will simply dismiss it. Regardless, we are often called to be the "messengers" and we should be armed with knowledge.
It seems to me that introducing something so volatile and "unnatural" into the body would be bound to meet with unpredictable outcomes.
This would seem to be a class action suit in waiting.
"Exploding womb"? I think that's goofy ... and I've been pregnant ten times, and experienced (among other things) uterine hemorrhage.
I'd love to stay focused on the facts, but you'd have to come along for the ride as well.
If human life begins at conception (not before, but at the moment of conception), and a drug (let's call it a contraceptive) works prior to conception, then by the definition every pro-life person I've ever spoken to uses, no human life is taken, as there is no conception. Life does NOT begin with the completion of the sex act. The morning after pill (emergency contraception) is an example of the above. RU-486 is an abortion pill, as it works after conception.
That's not just splitting hairs.
Ten pregnancies, eight children. The hemorrhage was following a miscarriage, and I did see a doctor, yes.
My point was that I think "exploding womb" is a crazy description. I have had two children since my last miscarriage, so obviously my uterus suffered no significant damage.
And enough of that ... yuck! :-).
RU-486 is very, very rarely used as emergency contraception. And for clarification, the "morning after" pill, which is what the article we are responding to is about, is a separate medication all together. So, they are very different and lumping the two together is not a wise idea when trying to get a point across. But kudos to you for digging hard enough to back-up your misstatement.
"The bottom line is that all the aforementioned methods are classified together as options to terminate a pregnancy, and all serve the same purpose. Please do some more moral contemplation when you have time to consider the consequences of such FDA-approved poisons on an unborn child."
Spare me the morality speech, please. I'm pro-life. I just want us to have our facts straight.
Well said, dmz. I'm too tired from being up all night with my 10 month old to be as concise as you've been, so thank you.
Kind of chuckling. I'm pretty sure I understand the mechanics of conception. I think we've gotten all of the major talking points out there by now, so, I'll bid you a fond adieu on this topic for now.
Placemarker
Actually, as another poster pointed out to me recently, even standard birth control can cause an abortion.
According to this link (there are more links available):
"How do these pills work? They basically have three effects. The first effect is the thickening of the mucous plug at the opening of the cervix, the mouth of the womb. This provides something of a natural barrier to the passage of sperm into the womb. This is a contraceptive function, as it prevents the union of sperm and egg.
There’s a second effect, which usually is the primary effect, and that is the suppression of ovulation. A projected ovulation is simply blocked and does not occur. The sperm may well be deposited in her female tract; they may swim through her tubes and out to the ovaries, but if there is no egg to fertilize, then we have a primary effect, an action technically called “temporary sterilization”—or, in more common, but less accurate language, “contraception.”
There is a third effect of the contraceptive pill. This effect is on the lining of the womb. What this does is to harden the lining of the womb—we say, make it hostile to implantation to this one-week-old embryo. If this is the function that prevents “pregnancy” that month, then it is implantation that is prevented. And this implantation, if prevented, kills a tiny one-week-old baby."
See more:
http://www.lifeissues.org/abortifacients/pill.html
And informative post, thanks for that.
I personally have no moral problem with the suppression of ovulation, or barrier methods which prevent the fertilization of the egg, but once that egg IS fertilized, it contains all of the essential elements necessary to become a viable human being.
When is 'viable'? That standard is being pushed back pretty regularly now, with 22 weeks being the most current number I've heard bandied about.
Now the various abortificants can be labeled with any name the manufacturers put on them, and people can debate the differences between them until the cows come home, but once again: the bottom line is that these medications in the presence of a fertilized egg have no other purpose except that of an abortificant.
Poison is poison, just ask the unborn child.
The morning after pill is not the same drug as RU-486 (which is mifepristone), but don't let ignorance stand in the way of having a firm opinion! :)
"A spate of exploding wombs"
Wow, you'd think that would be on the news every night, women with their own built-in IEDs. Hope you're not standing next to a woman on the subway when THAT happens.
well dont get your knickers all in a twist......
They're not, I assure you. I just hate to see people deal with an emotional topic like this without having facts at their disposal.
If, God forbid, my young daughter were ever raped and I found out quickly enough, you bet your life I'd want her to have that pill and whatever else she needed to avoid pregnancy.
You bet I would!
I belive if one is treated soon enough after a rape at a medical facility, they can sometimes prevent conception.
As a Catholic, I am opposed to birth control, but I understand that people are going to use it. If they do, I don't have a problem with contraception that prevents ovulation or conception, but once conception is occured, there is a person in the earliest phases of development. Contraceptive methods that prevent that person from implanting are an abortaficient.
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