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If Rudy were to apply his gun control to the entire country that would be wrong.

I'd give Hillary better odds of trampling all of your rights.

Guns are not a problem country wide and it wouldn't be in his style to do this.

Think of NYC as an airport lobby. A crowded area with high traffic too hard to control without strict security. Because of a few bad apples, everyone has to pay the price.

"If Rudy were to apply his gun control to the entire country that would be wrong. "

It was wrong to institute it in NY. THere was never a problem with law abiding citizens having the property, or defending themselves effectively. There was a problem of bliss ninnies and grabbers that were more concerned with the health of the failed criminal, and their own desire to gain more power. Same is true with all the other large and small cities that instituted their draconian grabbing schemes.

"I'd give Hillary better odds of trampling all of your rights. "

I never said I was tossing a vote to justify her desires either.

"Guns are not a problem country wide and it wouldn't be in his style to do this. "

As I said, they never were a problem, even in the cities. He already attempted it. In case you misssed it, he tried to institute his grabbing scheme nationwide by judge shopping and court action. HE also lobbied for States up and down the eastern seaboard to reduce gun ownership to a may issue privilege.

"Think of NYC as an airport lobby"

It's a city, not an airport lobby. Think of the United States as a Free Country!

"Because of a few bad apples, everyone has to pay the price. "

This ain't grade school, and Giuliani's grabbing schemes, bogus justifications, and general disrespect for Freedom, doesn't warrant any respect. Hayak wrote about Giuliani's worldview in the Road to Serfdom.

Actually the gun bans are even less effective in a place like New York City than most others because 2 other states are less than an hour away, and 5 are less than 4 hours away. If I were a criminal and didn't care about the laws (most criminals don't) then I could take orders for guns at 9:00AM, drive up to PA or Vermont, buy them, and be back in time to distribute them before dinner.

The only people who are effected by gun bans are the people who in reality you would probably prefer to have armed. The law abiding citizen is totally shut down when a gun ban is implemented, and that makes it easier for the criminal because he knows his victim can't fight back.

The criminal knows he's got a gun... ban or no ... (he just drove 5 hours to Vermont to get one) and thanks to the gun ban he knows that he's the only one who does.

Even if you aren't in favor of the right to bear arms as a matter of constitutional policy, it makes nothing but sense in terms of law enforcement as well.

The smart thing to do in terms of incentives, is to arm as many law abiding people as possible, and then if one of them commits a crime with a gun.... any crime...you bring the holy wrath of god down on their head and throw away the key.