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A Rudy Awakening for the NRA
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| 2/8/07
| Matt Bennett
Posted on 02/27/2007 11:33:50 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: tcostell
$3.65 per $100 of assessed valuation in my nabe, and the median house is valued at $650,000. Do the math.
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posted on
03/21/2007 2:57:19 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
To: justshutupandtakeit
90 of republican congresscritters surveyed last year said man mad global warming was a fraud. I'd appreciate something along those lines from our nominee. Even the ever genteel Bush refuses to go after industry and rejects the Kyoto nonsense.
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posted on
03/21/2007 3:03:48 PM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: justshutupandtakeit
Lots of non-political gun owners that crawl out of the woodwork each time the issue comes up
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posted on
03/21/2007 3:05:51 PM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: Clemenza
Yeah ... when we moved out of manhattan we were in Putnam Valley. In the three years we were there our taxes went from $11,000 per year to almost $30,000 per year, and the school system was spending $20,000 per student per year.
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posted on
03/21/2007 3:30:38 PM PDT
by
tcostell
(MOLON LABE)
To: Gracey; pissant
" People who degrade Rudy probably haven't taken the time to check out his record.
Oh, we have dear. We checked Rudy's record out quite throughly. And what did we discover? Rudy is NOT a conservative. Conservatives don't support liberals.
It seems to me you Rudybots are the ones who haven't checked out his record. Either that--or you're a liberal. Which is it?
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posted on
03/21/2007 3:59:43 PM PDT
by
dmw
(Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
To: AFreeBird
Yeah, but I'm going to blue trail this weekend to dust off my .306
look I typed that one quicker than I should have and have been pummeled for it.
I speak more to the cops I know who are underpaid and scared about the volume of large caliber pistols they pick up. You can defend yourself fine with a 9....they worry about the 10s because the vests don't hold up as well and a shot outside the vest is lethal all the time.
To: tcostell
And I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I think your arguments would be better served if you go to a shooting range somewhere and learn something about it before you try to persuade others to your view. And if your view changes because you've learned something about it, so much the better for all of us.
I have been through the NRA safety course and have had a concealed weapons permit issued by the state of Oregon for 18 years. I am familiar with handguns and know how to use them. I own a stainless steel Smith and Wesson, 38 caliber, 5 shot revolver, which I carry for protection. My husband is a lifetime member of NRA and has several larger caliber handguns as well as hunting rifles and shotguns. I still don't like assault weapons and wouldn't allow one is my home. My husband agrees.
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posted on
03/21/2007 5:02:24 PM PDT
by
KATIE-O
(A Conservative Republican for Rudy Giuliani.'08 ( and I still despise Liberals!))
To: tcostell
It's not a choice between Rudy and Hillary. Rudy is not the only person who can beat her. I don't know how to say it any plainer than that.
Neither do I. The Rudyphobes are hopeless. I'm going to pretend they don't exist. They don't even make sense.
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posted on
03/21/2007 5:16:41 PM PDT
by
KATIE-O
(A Conservative Republican for Rudy Giuliani.'08 ( and I still despise Liberals!))
To: marron
gun banner == liberal.
Liberal == No freedoms.
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posted on
03/21/2007 5:18:42 PM PDT
by
Tarpon
To: dirtboy
Sorry I denied you one of your stock talking points. Maybe you could try thinking as a replacement for it.
You be sure and let us know how that Duncan Hunter nomination works out for ya. /sarc.
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posted on
03/21/2007 5:20:43 PM PDT
by
KATIE-O
(A Conservative Republican for Rudy Giuliani.'08 ( and I still despise Liberals!))
To: dmw
Sorry I don't understand labels. First someone needs to define conservative. I don't care to get into an argument, with extremists.
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posted on
03/21/2007 6:04:29 PM PDT
by
Gracey
(Rudy/Rice..... 2008 vs Hitlary/Osama Obama)
To: Gracey
"Sorry I don't understand labels. First someone needs to define conservative. I don't care to get into an argument, with extremists."
Happy to oblige. Conservatism is a lot of things, but as it relates to most of us here on FR, we like the way Jim Robinson describes it. You can read more about it on the FR home page, but I've posted a comment below that Jim made not too long ago on another thread. This kind of sums it up in a nutshell.....
How many times must I say FR is a conservative site? We do not support abortionism, homosexualism, feminisim, environmentalism, gun control, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc. When I say I suspect we will become even more conservative than we already are, possibly via attrition if nothing else, what do you think I'm referring to? When FR starts pushing hard and I mean hard against abortion, gay marriage, homosexual education forced on our school children, pandering to illegal aliens, gun control, McCaine-Feingold type usurpation, global warming, etc, etc, even if supported or advanced by the GOP, then I fully suspect certain types of moderate/liberal Republican
supporters are probably going to be a little uncomfortable here. We will be fighting for traditional American conservatism no matter who we have to fight against and I'm afraid that's going to piss off some folks.
~Jim Robinson~
03/02/2007
Now, I have a question for you. Is this what you would describe as "extremists" as you call them?
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posted on
03/21/2007 6:33:17 PM PDT
by
dmw
(Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
To: KATIE-O
Thanks for showing us your mentality as well. Duncan Hunter?? pfffffft!Well well well. The fourth grade has spoken! Bwahahaha
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posted on
03/21/2007 8:21:18 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
To: FreedomPoster
There seems to be a number of anti-2nd "conservatives" on this thread.Well, MOLON LAVE to them. No Republican will ever get elected that doesn't strongly support it. The 2nd Amendment lobby is just too strong and Amen for that!
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posted on
03/21/2007 9:17:39 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
To: Blackirish
Are you comparing Rudy Giuliani to Adolph Hitler?Yes.
To: KATIE-O
I'm sorry Katie but it still sounds to me like you don't have any idea what an assault weapon is. Do you mean that you don't allow any semiautomatic rifles in your home or do you mean actual assault weapons?
An equivalent sort of thought would be if the state of Oregon banned all stainless steel weapons because someone used one in a crime. Under the new rule, owners of stainless steel weapons must turn them in at the nearest police station or face prosecution as a felon. No compensation will be provided.
You would be forced to turn in your revolver, and get one that isn't stainless steel but does EXACTLY the same thing.
All this drama about what the media calls assault weapons is exactly the same as that. They have chosen purely cosmetic features of semiautomatic rifles and said that those features make them "killing machines". But they don't actually effect the use of the gun any more than making it in stainless steel would.
So what exactly are you so steadfast against again? Is it semiautomatic weapons like those currently being called "assault weapons" in the media, or something else?
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posted on
03/22/2007 3:31:04 AM PDT
by
tcostell
(MOLON LABE)
To: KATIE-O
You be sure and let us know how that Duncan Hunter nomination works out for yaPlease let us know how selling out for a liberal pubbie pushes the conservative values you claim you have yet show so little understanding of.
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posted on
03/22/2007 5:56:56 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Duncan Hunter 08)
To: pissant
Politicians' opinions vs scientists' studies are a losing proposition. Rudy's approach is much more intelligent. And that says more or less "We do not know if man is causing some of the warming but we do know that pollution from oil products is a problem otherwise and we know that we need to reduce our dependence on the Middle East." So even if there is NO contribution from man we need to develop alternative energy sources such as Nuclear. If the is some contribution then this is even more imperiative.
Why get in an argument you cannot win? We cannot PROVE that man is having no impact anymore than the opposition can PROVE that he is. We can show that 95%+ of the Greenhouse gases are natural but they just counter with another fact, that CO2 levels have increased significantly.
BTW South Park had a new episode last night which had an environmental theme. Very funny.
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posted on
03/22/2007 8:07:34 AM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
To: justshutupandtakeit
I don't trust Rudy not to implement some democrat nonsense/regulations. Bush rejected Kyoto. Does Rudy?
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posted on
03/22/2007 8:11:45 AM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: bluedressman
Think of his approach as a localized one to communities than can not handle gunsIn other words, where minorities live.
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posted on
03/22/2007 8:18:26 AM PDT
by
jmc813
(The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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