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A Rudy Awakening for the NRA
Third Way ^ | 2/8/07 | Matt Bennett

Posted on 02/27/2007 11:33:50 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: AFreeBird
Dang, that must be a Lazmataz inspired design feature.

He was the first and only beta tester.

181 posted on 03/21/2007 1:11:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: EternalVigilance

Why would any politician take YOUR advice? They do want to win, you know?


182 posted on 03/21/2007 1:15:23 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Not that it matters, but every politician who followed my advice in 2006 won.


183 posted on 03/21/2007 1:19:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney: As good at pretending to be a conservative as he is at pretending to be Cuban.)
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To: LibKill

"Putting Rudy in the White House will be just the same as having Hillary there,..." And you probably wonder why no one you support can gain ANY traction.

Has HIllary busted thousands of mobsters we don't know about?

Has Hillary transformed a city sinking into crime and corruption into a safe metropolitan area?

Has Hillary CUT taxes, ever?

Has Hillary taken on the filth purveyors in the "art" community? Or thrown out one of the worst terrorists in the world? No, she is too busy hugging and kissing his wife and getting her husband to PARDON others.

There is no problem with not liking Rudy or not supporting him but you won't get away with posting outrageous LIES like that.


184 posted on 03/21/2007 1:21:52 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: arthurus

You are dreaming. If Hillary wins everything you support will be threatened and there will be a decades long control by the Party of Treason.

And I'll bet you are one who believes Rudyphiles are "surrendering".


185 posted on 03/21/2007 1:23:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: dirtboy

Now Rudy is an "anti-federalist"? Funny stuff.

Of course everything else in your post is a superficial exaggeration too.

For example, the comments he made about global warming were NOT saying that he believed it was man-made. He deftly skirted that merely mentioning that the majority of scientists believed man played a role. He then went on to say that EVEN IF man was NOT a factor we still needed to reduce the pollutants alleged to be behind GW because they were bad in themselves and were indicative of too much dependent upon oil and therefore, the Middle East.

But, EVEN BETTER, he then went on to call the hypocrites bluff by calling for more Nuclear energy which is the LAST thing they would propose. You are aware of his comments and that they are not as you portray them, why would you do that?


186 posted on 03/21/2007 1:29:24 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Now Rudy is an "anti-federalist"? Funny stuff.

Hardly. Calling up Carolyn McCarthy to join him for a photo op to call for more federal gun control laws after the 1997 Empire State Building shooting is hardly the sign of a federalist. Supporting Roe v. Wade is definitely not the sign of a federalist.

187 posted on 03/21/2007 1:33:06 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Clemenza

Rudy must have busted you and Tessio.


188 posted on 03/21/2007 1:39:02 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Clemenza

"...the REAL meaning of the second amendment: to allow us to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government." What crap. Militias were barely able to defend themselves against Indians much less a modern military. And there is no "well-regulated" militia today.

The Second says precisely why it exists "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state...". It was not ratified to protect the people from themselves who are the power behind a representative government. It also reflected the common fear of a standing army which was a anachronism derived from looking at the European historical experience of absolutism. Our republic was established to remove the source of those fears.


189 posted on 03/21/2007 1:47:51 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: dirtboy

You will have to come up with something better than that to make that charge stick.

Roe v Wade was the finding of the Federal courts. Federalists abide by such findings. Even if they don't necessarily agree with them.


190 posted on 03/21/2007 1:51:30 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
OK. So repeal the second amendment. Don't pass asinine "Sullivan Laws" and "handgun bans" to try and circumvent it. Just repeal it. Problem solved.

Nice to see that even a highly intelligent, fellow alumn of the U of C can become Dr. Pangloss when it comes to the State. We all have our faults. :-)

191 posted on 03/21/2007 1:52:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Roe v Wade was the finding of the Federal courts. Federalists abide by such findings. Even if they don't necessarily agree with them.

Thanks for the great setup.

Rudy defied federal law and federal court orders to maintain NYC's sanctuary city policy.

Game, set, match. Later, and have a nice day.

192 posted on 03/21/2007 1:54:45 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: pissant

"...Rudy's stands on global warming alarmism..." Now YOU are going to try and pass this LIE. He did not say what you are pretending he did. And you already know it.


193 posted on 03/21/2007 1:57:05 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: NormsRevenge
Have y'all noticed that MSM is trying to make us believe that we need a liberal to beat a liberal?

I don't believe that we need a liberal to beat a liberal.

Check the past predictions by the Lame Stream Media (LSM):

Coward Dean was supposed to be the Demoratic nominee in 2004.

Since Kohn Kerry won, the LSM said that Kohn Kerry would be the next President in 2004.

I say horse hockey!

We don't need a liberal to beat a liberal.

We need to encourage our base by bringing a strong Conservative Republican.

Someone who has served.

Someone who has voted for the War.

Someone who son has served in Iraq.

Someone who is asking for the CNN to be removed being embedded with our Troops.

Someone who has a A+ rating from the NRA and a strong rating for Life.

Someone who has worked hard for Border Security.

Someone who has worked hard to keep God in Public view.

That someone is Duncan Hunter.

I am voting for the best man for the job.

And so far, IMHO Duncan Hunter is the man for the job.

If the rest of the Party picks a liberal, I will close ranks and hold my nose. I just hope that Republicans are not so scared of Hillary that they end up voting for a liberal in hopes to beat a liberal.
194 posted on 03/21/2007 2:00:41 PM PDT by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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To: KATIE-O; areafiftyone

How about Rudy's support of George Will (Will gave a 10 minute introduction at CPAC) and Simon of California, the Ultra Conservative that ran against The present Governor.

Does anyone have a continuous list of those who have come out to support Rudy? I notice the company that has supported Bush bumper stickers/shirts/caps, pins, has signed up with Rudy. Wow. They usually go with the winner.

http://www.spalding-group.com/


195 posted on 03/21/2007 2:01:05 PM PDT by Gracey (Rudy/Rice..... 2008 vs Hitlary/Osama Obama)
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To: Clemenza

There is no need to repeal the Second. It does not say that EVERY person can possess EVERY firearm in EVERY location. It says that the right of the PEOPLE cannot be infringed. Clearly SOME people cannot be trusted with guns and as they become more powerful more training and experience is necessary in order to use them correctly.

Don't forget that when the militias existed they drilled regularly and practiced. We have nothing similiar today.

Personally I believe in Concealed Carry wherein the licensees are guaranteed not to be criminal, crazy or incompetent. But you must admit firing an AK47 on a crowded subway is dangerous to all but the holder.

Candide has some nice tunes but I am no Pangloss or a Pandetractor.


196 posted on 03/21/2007 2:05:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

He liked Gore's movie save that it did not provide the solutions. Malkin and the entire blogosphere featured this prominently. Were they lying or just mistaken?


197 posted on 03/21/2007 2:05:34 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: EternalVigilance

You are sitting on a fortune. The next Dick MOrris without the foot fetish.


198 posted on 03/21/2007 2:06:25 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: dirtboy

You would like to think so but not quite that last shot was ruled out of bounds.

In order to deal with the rampant crimes in NYC it was necessary to create trust within the Illegal community so that there was no fear in reporting crimes to the police. Being an Illegal was a MISDEMEANOR under federal law so it was NO BIG deal according to the law Reagan signed.

Concentrating on those Illegals who were preying on their fellows and other citizens allowed the improvement of the lives of all. Prioritization of needs led to that strategy and it worked.

Anyone wanting a more serious approach to Illegals have to AT LEAST make breaking the law a felony. And since the conservatives were smashed last fall that ain't going to happen.


199 posted on 03/21/2007 2:12:43 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: pissant

The quotes you boys have posted here regarding what he said have all been totally misrepresented as jumping on the GW bandwagon when any FAIR reading of them does not show that at all.

Now I don't expect any fairness from the Rudyphobes but still.

If you have some other quotes lets see them.


200 posted on 03/21/2007 2:15:57 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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