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To: WashingtonSource

Yes, there is a Catholic remnant in France.
But even in the heyday of the Church there, France had a singularly bad reputation. His Most Christian Majesty usually had a half dozen children out of wedlock, at least. Louis XIV probably had hundreds.

When there is no official statistic (and there isn't) the plural of anecdote is data. One sees it all over France. Of course, the data will NEVER exist, because France isn't going to make official racial distinctions among Frenchmen. Still, there have been private samplings, published in the various media, and the trends are good. I will see if I can find some and post them to you.


37 posted on 02/28/2007 7:47:08 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13
Dear Vicomte, Unfortunately high church men have sullied the reputation of the Catholic Church. But there were also great saints and people who lived godly lives. It was not all bad. The secularists and democrats set out to destroy the influence of the Catholic church, which was seen to be in alliance with the aristocracy in the 18th century. In more modern times, the secular left has sought to minimize and marginalize the church because it was an obstacle to their goal of undermining the family and culture, and they have been quite successful in doing this. The echo of the Communists who hated the bourgeoisie and their Catholic ethics is everywhere in France. I don't know how the church can counteract this, but an effort should be made.

I would like to see some polling data that might help establish the trends in birth rates you claim. No scientists can accept a collection of anecdotes as anything other than anecdotes. Indeed, some very nefarious projects have relied on anecodates and not solid statistical data. While sampling is better than nothing, the best data are complete census data. Everything is subject to greater error.

39 posted on 03/01/2007 8:42:36 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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