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Conflicting reports over blast in Iraqi city ~ near a soccer field in the city of Ramadi ....
Reuters ^ | Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:09PM EST | Dean Yates and Ibon Villelabeitia

Posted on 02/27/2007 11:26:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: CJ-50
The media's agenda is to use a body count to "prove" US failure. They liked the 18 children killed because while it would hurt Al-Qaeda's propaganda in that it killed innocent children it makes them immortal to a point that the US can't defeat them according to the MSM.
21 posted on 02/27/2007 1:58:18 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This story has more twists and turns than the Alcan. LOL


22 posted on 02/27/2007 2:00:52 PM PST by Chena
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To: tobyhill

I sent an email to CQ and MM blog...pointing to the three threads....hope they are looking at it.

Needs some sorting out ....


23 posted on 02/27/2007 2:12:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Chena
We may have three separate events here...
24 posted on 02/27/2007 2:14:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It sounds like it, but.....who knows. We live in strange times.


25 posted on 02/27/2007 2:15:22 PM PST by Chena
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The latest from the AP:

February 27, 2007 at 13:20:1 PST
Confusion Arises Over Blast, 18 Deaths
By BRIAN MURPHY ASSOCIATED PRESS

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -

0227dvs-iraq-weapons Police and Iraqi state television said a car bomb exploded Tuesday near a park popular with young soccer players, killing at least 18 boys in Ramadi, a city west of Baghdad. However, the U.S. military said 30 civilians and one Iraqi soldier were injured in a "controlled detonation" of explosives southeast of Ramadi but there were no deaths. The military routinely blows up captured weapons and ammunition.

It was unclear whether there were two blasts or confusion over the casualties from a single explosion.

Both local police and state television said the bomb-rigged car blew apart Tuesday afternoon while the boys, aged 10-15, were playing in Ramadi, an insurgent stronghold about 70 miles west of Baghdad.

The Interior Ministry did not immediately return calls for details.

In Baghdad on Tuesday, at least 10 people were killed in bombings amid a security operation launched this month targeting militant factions and sectarian death squads that have ruled the capital's streets.

As part of the sweeps, U.S. and Iraqi forces staged raids in Baghdad's main Shiite militant stronghold, making politically sensitive forays into areas loyal to radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Al-Sadr withdrew his Mahdi Army militia from checkpoints and bases under intense government pressure to let the neighbor-by-neighbor security sweeps move ahead. But Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and others have opposed extensive U.S.-led patrols through Sadr City, fearing a violent backlash could derail the security effort.

The pre-dawn raids appeared to highlight a strategy of pinpoint strikes in Sadr City rather than the flood of soldiers sent into some Sunni districts.

At least 16 people were arrested after U.S.-Iraqi commandos - using concussion grenades - stormed six homes, police said.

The U.S. military statement said the raids targeted "the leadership of several rogue" Mahdi Army cells that "direct and perpetrate sectarian murder" - an apparent reference to Shiite gangs accused of carrying out execution-style slayings and torture on Sunni rivals.

"My sons and wife were very terrified," complained Muhand Mihbas, 30, who said his brother and six cousins were taken in the sweeps. "Does the security plan mean arresting innocent people and scaring civilians at night?"

At a news conference, the Pentagon's No. 2 commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno, declined to comment on whether there were special tactics for Sadr City.

"We will go after anyone who we feel is working against the government of Iraq," he said.

U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell told Al-Arabiya television that forces "will increase our operations in the coming days," but noted that the security crackdown in the capital should continue until at least October.

Added Odierno: "We will keep at this until the people feel safe in their neighborhoods."

A roadside bomb southwest of the capital killed three U.S. soldiers assigned to a unit based in Baghdad, the military said. A fourth soldier was killed near Diwaniyah, a mostly Shiite town 80 miles south of Baghdad.

Bombings continued to strike across central Baghdad, including a suicide attack in an area filled with restaurants and ice cream parlors that killed at least five people.

In the Wassit province, southeast of Baghdad, Iraqi forces engaged in intense fighting with suspected Sunni insurgents along a key highway, police said. Near the northern city of Mosul, a suicide bomber struck a factory, killing at least four people.

A separate suicide car bombing in Mosul killed at least six policemen and injured 38 police and civilians, said police said police Col. Aidan al-Jubouri.

Iraqi authorities, meanwhile, arrested a suspect in the attempted assassination of Shiite Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi, an aide said.

The aide said the arrest was made after reviewing security camera video from Monday's blast, which ripped through an awards ceremony at the ministry of public works and killed at least 10 people. Abdul-Mahdi was injured.

The aide spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.

The bomb was planted under a chair in the first row of the meeting hall - about six feet from the vice president, the aide said. Police initially thought the bomb was hidden under a speakers' podium.

"Investigations are being done to figure out how the attack was planned," Abdul-Mahdi told Furat television. Abdul-Mahdi is one of two vice presidents. The other is Sunni.

And in the southern Qadisiya province, Iraqi security forces said they captured 157 suspects linked to a shadowy armed cell called the Soldiers of Heaven, or Jund al-Samaa.

The group was involved in a fierce gunbattle last month with Iraqi forces who accused it of planning to kill Shiite clerics and others in the belief it would hasten the return of the "Hidden Imam" - a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad who disappeared as a child in the 9th century. Shiites believe he will return one day to bring justice.

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26 posted on 02/27/2007 2:17:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don't believe the soccer bombing happened because our military has a plausible explanation for what they did at the same time and place in which was "Breaking News" of "car bomb". They maybe trying to pimp a story today that happened yesterday which got almost no play.


27 posted on 02/27/2007 2:27:30 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill
Well,...the Stock Market is the BIG story today....after the Bomb Blast near Cheney...
28 posted on 02/27/2007 2:40:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The stock market was due for a sell-off for a while now. I wish the MSM would confirm and correct the bombing claim now instead of having a contradictory article with a he said he said. It either happened or it didn't and that being the case it's not really subject for debate. The MSM was real quick to "confirm" the original event of 18 killed but aren't as willing to admit they can't confirm it.
29 posted on 02/27/2007 2:48:38 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; tobyhill; SolidWood

Iraqi officials say 18 boys killed by car bomb; U.S. reports 'controlled' blast
February 27, 2007 - 17:36

By: BRIAN MURPHY

BAGHDAD (AP) - State television reported that 18 boys were killed when a car bomb exploded in a park in Ramadi, and Iraqi and international officials were quick to deplore the slaughter. But questions about key details of the report emerged just as quickly.

Iraqi police and state TV said the attack occurred Tuesday. Later, police said it happened Monday.

The confusion grew deeper following an announcement by U.S. forces that 30 civilians and one Iraqi soldier were injured by flying debris Tuesday when troops intentionally detonated 15 bags of explosives found in Ramadi.

Some of the wounded were treated at a U.S. aid station, and others were flown to a military hospital for treatment, the statement said. None of the injuries were life threatening, it added.

The news first broke after nightfall when it is too dangerous for local journalists to independently check the reports in Ramadi, a Sunni insurgent stronghold 110 kilometres west of Baghdad. Western reporters normally tour the area only as part of military patrols.

Meanwhile, reports that the boys were killed touched off a flurry of condemnation.

UNICEF, the UN's children's agency, issued a statement saying "the loss of so many innocent children at play is unacceptable."

"Iraq's recreational areas, as well as its schools, must be respected and protected as safe havens where children can play and learn without fear," said Roger Wright, the UNICEF representative for Iraq.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani's office issued a statement denouncing the 18 deaths and calling on Iraqi security forces to "chase and punish the criminals."

Another statement from Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's office called the boys' deaths "a brutal act" that "reveals the ugly face" of terrorists. The prime minister's statement described the attack as coming Tuesday.

But an official in al-Maliki's office said they based the date on the Iraqi TV report. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to make public comments.

A prominent Sunni cleric called the attack evidence of terrorists' "deficit and weakness."

"They (terrorists) have neither religion nor dignity," Sheik Hameed al-Hayes told state television.

Also on Tuesday, U.S.-led strike forces seized suspected Shiite death squad bosses in sweeps through Baghdad's Sadr City slum. The raids were part of highly sensitive forays into areas loyal to radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who has ridiculed the two-week-old campaign for failing to halt bombings by suspected Sunni insurgents against Shiite civilians.

Al-Sadr withdrew his powerful Mahdi Army militia from checkpoints and bases under intense government pressure to let the security push go forward. But the Iraqi government also worries that al-Sadr could pull his support if he feels his militiamen are being squeezed in Baghdad.

The pre-dawn raids appeared to highlight a strategy of pinpoint strikes in Sadr City rather than the flood of soldiers sent into some Sunni districts.

Bombings have not slackened off, with at least 10 people killed in blasts around Baghdad on Tuesday. However, an apparent success of the clampdown can be measured in the morgues: a sharp drop in the number of bullet-riddled bodies found in the streets of the capital, victims of sectarian death squads.

The number of bodies found this month in Baghdad - most shot and showing signs of torture - has dropped by nearly 50 per cent to 494 as of Monday, compared with 954 in January. The figure stood at 1,222 in December, according to figures compiled by The Associated Press.

"We have seen a decrease in the past three weeks; a pretty radical decrease," said Lt.-Gen. Ray Odierno, the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq.

Many Sunnis have long alleged that most of killings were by Shiite militias, such as the Mahdi Army or rogue elements within the Shiite-led police.

The U.S. military said the raids targeted "the leadership of several rogue" Mahdi Army cells that "direct and perpetrate sectarian murder," an apparent reference to execution-style slayings and torture. At least 16 people were arrested.

"My sons and wife were very terrified," complained Muhannad Mihbas, 30, who said his brother and six cousins were taken in the sweeps. "Does the security plan mean arresting innocent people and scaring civilians at night?"

Odierno declined to comment on whether there were special tactics governing the Sadr City sweeps. "We will go after anyone who we feel is working against the government of Iraq," he said.

U.S. military spokesman Maj.-Gen. William Caldwell told Al-Arabiya television that forces "will increase our operations in the coming days," but noted that the security crackdown in the capital should continue until at least October.

Added Odierno: "We will keep at this until the people feel safe in their neighbourhoods."

http://www.570news.com/news/international/article.jsp?content=w022771A


30 posted on 02/27/2007 2:55:04 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Even if it's a false report it looks like it may have some benefit in putting further wedges between locals and terrorist.


31 posted on 02/27/2007 2:59:27 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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UNICEF, the UN's children's agency, issued a statement saying "the loss of so many innocent children at play is unacceptable."

Well ...that is reassuring!

32 posted on 02/27/2007 3:00:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: tobyhill; TexKat

Foxnews is STILL touting the original story of the 18 boys....geez....just had it on the special news report news break....


33 posted on 02/27/2007 3:14:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just saw that. They didn't even mention the account is in dispute by Military Officials.


34 posted on 02/27/2007 3:17:23 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Foxnews is STILL touting the original story of the 18 boys....geez....just had it on the special news report news break....

I no longer watch Fox News, haven't for some time now.

35 posted on 02/27/2007 3:23:14 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Regardless of the outcome, let these people in think AQIR did it, and get pissed off the moreso and start to side 100% with the IG and their forces and ours. Al Ramadi must be cleared of pockets of goons still operating there.
Gotta kill em all off and let the reconstruction projects take full hold and start employing Iraqi, give em a reason to hate the insurgents and radical muslim groups.
36 posted on 02/27/2007 7:45:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: SolidWood

Same view I just echoed to Ernest. The L/MSM we have no control over, but that will not prevent the mission from being accomplished, at least not for another year. And a lot of good things can happen in a year or so. We are over the hump.


37 posted on 02/27/2007 7:47:20 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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