Posted on 02/27/2007 8:18:16 AM PST by aculeus
You "believe" you've "seen a reference," and that's sufficient for you to start impugning people's motives and character?
I'll look into your accusations when I'm at my main computer.
"Is there similar evidence in SSAD among women? With regard to little girls?"
Sorry, I don't know. It's pretty clear that no such study could be done in today's political climate.
So sad, prayers for the boy's family.
"Did someone think he’d stop molesting children, and go on to discover a cure for cancer?"
No, not this guy. But the one who would find a cure for cancer was probably aborted yesterday...or 30 years ago.
(Not trying to hijack the thread...it's just always on my mind!)
The story says "the woods cannot be searched at night." I find this puzzling. The police-trained German Shepherds we had when I was a kid LOVED to hunt at night. I say the German cops should have let them find this bastard, then wait an extra thirty seconds before calling the dogs off their prey. Just sit there with your flashlight and wait for pansy-boy to start screaming. Just a thought.
"Is there similar evidence in SSAD among women? With regard to little girls?"Sorry, I don't know. It's pretty clear that no such study could be done in today's political climate.
My understanding is that the "Vagina Monologues" condone and encourage the very behavior you ask about.
OK - by your own figures - 69.4% of molested victims under the age of 6 are girls and 74.9% of victims between 6-11 are girls.
You can play with percentages all you want - but the fact remains that MOST child molesters are heterosexuals.
By your own figures.
I said MOST - not ALL. The membership of NAMBLA is miniscule.
Once again there are far more heterosexual child molesters than homosexual molesters.
According to another poster - the Department of Justices says that 74.9% of molested kids between 6-11 are GIRLS.
ANY child molester is scum, hetero or homo.
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Wow you're right.
Child molestation is a difficult subject few people understand. But let me keep it easy, and restrict myself to the two main groups of child molesters.
1. Pedophiles. These are people who aren't attracted to children, usually to both sexes, thought that may vary. They don't show any attraction to adults. Usually, when a child they 'love' (hate is a better word) reaches adulthood, they'll no longer be after the child.
2. Situational child molesters. These are people who aren't attracted to children at all, but who 'use' children for their own sexual gratification. It doesn't matter to what adult sex this one is attracted, he may abuse children of any kind. Just like in prison, the men could care less about the fact that the person they're raping is a man.
It's really not that simple to say that people who are attracted to women would necessarily molest girls. Unfortunately, the disturbed psyche of these animals does not work that way.
and you respond:
"Pernicious horsesh*t. It is beyond disgusting, beyond evil that you would come on a thread like this with such foul, perverse, loathsome, vile -- and most importantly, just plain wrong -- brainrot."
Go look at the figures - MOST molested children are girls and MOST child molesters are heterosexuals. Whether you like it or not - facts are facts.
I have worked with hundreds, if not thousands of homosexuals in one of my past jobs. Your contention that 70% of gays have admitted to molesting children is absolutely outrageous.
Where on earth did you come up with such a number? It is obviously made up.
According to your own statement - only 2% of the population is gay - that works out to 6 million gays. You say that 70% of those (4.2 million) have molested children.(not only that - you claim the rest are "lying")
Now, the DOJ reports there are 4 million child molesters in this country. Since 74.9% of child molestation victims are girls being molested by heterosexual men - how on earth does that jibe with your outlandish claim that 4.2 million child molesters are all homosexuals?
You are having a big problem facing up to the reality - and the reality is that most child molesters are heteros and most (by far) victims are girls.
You know what the say about those who get rabid at the thought of homosexuality. Most of us don't care one way or the other.
Child molestation is a whole different thing. I DO get rabid on that subject - but you are talking apples and oranges.
So instead of calling you "foul, perverse, loathsome and vile" I suggest you take a good look at your misplaced anger. Get angry at child molesters - not homos.
I agree with you in all your points, but you would have to concede that the statistics you quote seem to indicate that gays--even using their own "10%" figure--are greatly overrepresented among child molesters.
I'm not saying and I don't believe that male homosexuals are naturally pedophiles. The problem as far as I am concerned is that gay culture sexualizes everything, including all relations between people. In my opinion gay culture makes the thought of sexual contact between adults and children less unthinkable.
"Go look at the figures - MOST molested children are girls and MOST child molesters are heterosexuals. Whether you like it or not - facts are facts."
And whether you like it or not, stupidity is stupidity. Someone has already explained the idiocy of the statement above, but since you apparently didn't understand that explanation, I'll try again.
You are looking only at raw numbers -- "most" -- and extrapolating from that to the probability of two groups of very different size committing the crime.
Let me try to make it even simpler. If you have a group of 100,000 heteros and a group of 2,000 homos, and the hetero group commits 2,500 molestations while every member of the homo group commits a molestation, "most" of the molestations were committed by heteros. However, the probability of a homo being a child molester under those circumstances is 100%, while that of a hetero is still down around 2%.
Try and look at the numbers. With 2% of the population committing over 30 percent of the *known* molestations, and adding in under-reporting, those who keep their crimes overseas, and those who convince their victims that they've done them a favor, the disparity is even larger.
"I have worked with hundreds, if not thousands of homosexuals in one of my past jobs."
So what? They snowed you, and you fell for it.
"Your contention that 70% of gays have admitted to molesting children is absolutely outrageous. Where on earth did you come up with such a number? It is obviously made up."
Firstly, I said "underage males," not children. Secondly, your assumption that the number is made up is as incorrect as the rest of your opinions on this subject.
"Now, the DOJ reports there are 4 million child molesters in this country."
That they know of. The homos who fly to Thailand twice a year don't appear in their figures, nor do those who properly "groom" their adolescent victims, or sufficiently terrorize their victims. Nor those who escape arrest because a homosexual rape is too humiliating to admit.
"Since 74.9% of child molestation victims are girls being molested by heterosexual men"
Now **there's** a ridiculous figure.
"how on earth does that jibe with your outlandish claim that 4.2 million child molesters are all homosexuals?"
It's never long before those on your side of this argument demonstrate an inability to remain rational on the subject. Of course, I made no such claim.
"You are having a big problem facing up to the reality - and the reality is that most child molesters are heteros and most (by far) victims are girls."
I understand that. I also understand -- as you do not -- why it says nothing about the probability of a homo being attracted to underage males. All you are saying is that 98% of the male population commits a larger number of such crimes than does the remaining 2%. That could very well be true even if every member of that 2% commits such crimes on an ongoing basis...as, indeed, many do.
"You know what the say about those who get rabid at the thought of homosexuality."
I don't pay a lot of attention to the rantings of the mentally ill and the stupid.
"Most of us don't care one way or the other."
Oh, but you do. If you didn't, you wouldn't be here now repeating pervofascist propaganda.
"Get angry at child molesters - not homos."
Homo + pretty boy + opportunity = molestation. Better take it on board before you become an enabler.
"I'm not saying and I don't believe that male homosexuals are naturally pedophiles. The problem as far as I am concerned is that gay culture sexualizes everything, including all relations between people. In my opinion gay culture makes the thought of sexual contact between adults and children less unthinkable."
That's very true. In male/female relations, puberty forms a natural boundary. That is when the female's secondary sexual characteristics begin to develop, and that is when she becomes able to bear children. Visually, a mature female is entirely different from a girl child.
The changes are much less significant in boys. They get taller, and maybe hairier, but there's no natural boundary as there is with females. The problem is not that men who suffer from SSAD are pedophiles; the problem is that attraction to youth is a defining symptom of SSAD. Part of the reason for that, of course, is that there is nothing depravity likes better than defiling innocence (See "Dangerous Liaisons").
"As for impugning people's motives, did you not say that 70% of queers admitted to molesting children and that the rest are lying? That's quite a claim to make"
But justified and accurate. It has yet to be established that it is based on a misinterpreted statistic. One must remember that the people who would try to discredit such a study are moral lepers, and therefore not to be trusted.
"It's quite disturbing that some people would use a tragedy like this to their own political advantage."
And there you go impugning people's motives again.
"Yep, a .45 cal slug in the forehead provides permanent adjustment from this perverted,evil behavior."
I'd rather they be turned over to a group of Mothers who had lost their children to the same kind of perverted monsters and let them decide their fate.
Preferably with a spoon.
(it will hurt more)
I bet getting a profuse beating from cast iron frying pans and wooden rolling pins has really got to hurt bad. Especially if those moms deliberately break every bone in the perp's body one-by-one.
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