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[Giuliani and McCain's] Tax-pledge dodge sends wrong message
Townhall.com ^ | 26 February 2007 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 02/26/2007 5:44:12 AM PST by Spiff

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Losers.
1 posted on 02/26/2007 5:44:16 AM PST by Spiff
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To: Spiff

They STILL won't sign the pledge?

Dude, is Rudy trying to give the GOP no reasons to vote for him at all?


2 posted on 02/26/2007 5:46:10 AM PST by TitansAFC (Liberalism is social terrorism, and it's much closer to home. No to Rudy, under any circumstance!)
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To: Spiff
Thus far, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (on Dec. 31), Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, California Rep. Duncan Hunter and former Virginia governor James Gilmore have all signed the pledge.

Telling.

3 posted on 02/26/2007 5:46:44 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Hillary Hugo Chavez wants to "take those profits" away from you, for the common good)
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To: FreeInWV; Reagan Man; Fierce Allegiance; EternalVigilance; B Knotts; jmc813; Kimberly GG; Sun; ...
((((STOP RUDY PING))))

The National Taxpayer Protection Pledge reads:

I ,____________, pledge to the taxpayers of the _____ district of the State of _________ and to the American People that I will:

ONE, oppose any and all efforts to increase the marginal income tax rates for individuals and/or businesses; and

TWO, oppose any net reduction or elimination of deductions and credits, unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates.


4 posted on 02/26/2007 5:46:45 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
It's gonna be interesting to see how the liberal Rudybot fans defend their man on this one. You know they will.
5 posted on 02/26/2007 5:51:41 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Spiff

Rudy is still trying to find someone to explain to him what a "fiscal conservative" actually is before he decides to sign this. (Not that it would mean anything even if he did.)


6 posted on 02/26/2007 5:51:58 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Why would Rudy sign it? He wouldn't even check 'Republican' on his FEC filing form.

Heck even if he did it sign it, it would be meaningless. We know Rudy's track record when it comes to 'commitments'. 'Commitment' and Rudy is like the Clinton's and the truth.

(what's the odds that if Rudy was somehow elected, say through a pact with the Devil, he'd switch parties. I say 50-50.)

7 posted on 02/26/2007 5:53:06 AM PST by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a 'Right Wing Extremist'.)
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To: Spiff

If there's another war, the president shouldn't have his hands tied when it comes to financing. I don't blame McCain and Giuliani. Romney's pledge is just desperation as he knows he's unlikely to be in the White House to live up to it.


8 posted on 02/26/2007 5:53:44 AM PST by William James
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Gonna' need higher taxes... to accomodate all those all those illegals and hire more ATF goons to go house-to-house rounding up all the weapons.


9 posted on 02/26/2007 5:54:58 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: dmw
It's gonna be interesting to see how the liberal Rudybot fans defend their man on this one. You know they will.

Of course they will. They will you a liar for posting fact. they will make amazing claims without ever backing them up. The will call you a KKK member, but claim you are the one splitting the party. They will tell you that whatever you post is old news and rudy has a new position now. They will tell you about something older than what they just called old news as an indicator of how awesome rudy is. If there is a troll in the bunch, they will deride you for calling the mods on it.

I like to call them the COLHfG's - Cranky old liberal Hags for Giuliani.

10 posted on 02/26/2007 5:56:30 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (If something I said angers you, you are must be ignorant, a sissy or a commie. Have a nice day.)
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Gonna' need higher taxes... to accomodate all those all those illegals and hire more ATF goons to go house-to-house rounding up all the weapons.

Much higher, because he'll give tax breaks to all the gay couples whose weddings he'll personally preside over. Oh yeah, he'll probably fully fund his pet gay groups, you know, the ones with ties to anti-war communist groups. Make taxes even higher to do that. UNNNGH! Wherre will it end?

11 posted on 02/26/2007 5:58:18 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (If something I said angers you, you are must be ignorant, a sissy or a commie. Have a nice day.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Cranky old liberal Hags(Fags) for Giuliani.
12 posted on 02/26/2007 6:01:33 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Spiff
"The winner of the Republican presidential nomination will probably be the candidate who most embodies the core principles and beliefs of Ronald Reagan."

Oh?
Then it's going to be someone other than Romney, McLame, or Giuliani?

13 posted on 02/26/2007 6:19:15 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Spiff
"...the pledge that every Republican presidential nominee has signed since 1988 promising not to raise the tax rates."

Would this be the same pledge that G.H.W. Bush signed?

And if so, what is it worth?

14 posted on 02/26/2007 6:21:21 AM PST by Redbob
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"'I can't imagine that McCain wouldn't sign it or that Giuliani wouldn't sign it. I can't imagine any Republican not signing that,' said Jack Kemp"

Why would anyone not sign it, since it means nothing?

15 posted on 02/26/2007 6:23:03 AM PST by Redbob
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Would this be the same pledge that G.H.W. Bush signed? And if so, what is it worth?

I don't know if he signed a pledge, but he sure made a pledge in 1988. As far as what it was worth, I'd say it was worth the 1992 election.

16 posted on 02/26/2007 6:24:52 AM PST by SIDENET (Voting for a liberal doesn't advance Conservatism.)
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To: Spiff
neither have signed the pledge that every Republican presidential nominee has signed since 1988 promising not to raise the tax rates.

Not to sound like a Giuliani or McCain phanboy, because I'm not, but purely symbolic gestures like this don't impress me. Signing the pledge in 1988 sure didn't stop George H. W. "Read My Lips" Bush from raising tax rates.

17 posted on 02/26/2007 6:25:19 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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And all the while the primaries are being jiggered to cut out the possibility of any "dark horse." We have a national disaster in the offing no matter which of these quasi leftists (and one nut) wins.


18 posted on 02/26/2007 6:29:32 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Redbob
Then it's going to be someone other than Romney, McLame, or Giuliani?

We can only pray and hope.

Hunter BUMP!

19 posted on 02/26/2007 6:51:58 AM PST by upchuck (Oh, so they have Internet on computers now! ~ H. Simpson)
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"Not that it would mean anything even if he did"

And you think it means something to the others? It's called pandering to the 'base'. You might not like it, but if Rudy thinks its a stupid thing to sign, he won't sign it. I think it is a meaningless pledge myself. You cannot be an effective leader and tie your own hands like that.
20 posted on 02/26/2007 6:53:32 AM PST by Josh Randal
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