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How about ONE time we look at the WHOLE picture instead of merely selectively cherry picking facts to rationalize personal position on the Immigration issue? WHICH party leadership fought for, and brought the Legislation to the floor for a vote and which party, especially in the US Senate, did everything, including filibustering it, to kill that Legislation you cite? That right the Democrats killed it. EVERY single Democrat Senator voted against it. EVERY one.

But that right, God forbid the Alway Angry about Everything crowd actually put anything issue into context or actually think about the totality of the issue or what discuss what is actually going on in DC. Frankly this odd habit of the Purists, such as Luntz, of NEVER ever being able to actually find ANYTHING to attack the Democrats on EVER makes us wonder which side they REALLY are on. They seem to spend all their time doing the Democrats PR dirty work for them. Rather strange behavior from people claiming to be "Real Conservatives". Their fire is NEVER directed at anyone but their own political allies. Frankly with friends like this, who needs enemies. To their doctrine of total Dogmatic Political Purity linked to their pathetic need to constantly sniping their own political allies in the back rather then EVER attack the Democrats on ANY issue is WAY more important t then actually MOVING what they claim to be their political agenda forward. Frankly Reagan, a supremely pragmatic politician would spit on all of these dogmatic purists.

Utterly pathetic that this same collection of Dogmatic Purists constantly squeal about their "God" Reagan. The SAME Ronald Reagan who signed a REAL Illegals Amnesty. Doubled the Size of the Fed Govt in 8 years, Signed 2 Tax Hikes, Spent Record Fed Deficits, negotiated with the Mullahs of Iran, appointed a Liberal to the SC and ran away from the Muslim Terrorist threat.

Using the SAME standard applied by Lutz et al, REAGAN was "NO Conservative" and utterly failed the American people.

Basically what Lutz et al want to do is IGNORE the best sustained economic performance ever, the successful war, ignore all the Conservative Judges and the thousands of other accomplishments and instead mindlessly fixate on the 30% of their personal political agenda that did NOT make it thru the DC Legislative buzz saw on it's very 1ST time around.

Rather the Conservative Establishment would simply rather whine and bitch and cry endlessly that the world is not perfect and they did not get out of politics everything exactly the way they wanted and NOTHING that they did not want the very 1st Time it came around.

Well Guess What. People with that sort of attitude better resign themselves to dying unhappy then. NO body gets ONLY 100% of ONLY what THEY want the second they want it in politics. NOBODY.

So after about 70 years being out of power in one branch or the other the Conservatives were exactly 1 SC Justice away from FINALLY regaining control of all three branches of the US Govt and the childish wretches of the Worst Generation pissed it all away in a fit of petulant because their personal political whimsy was not being enacted as fast as they felt it should be.

Frankly the modern "Conservative" Establishment has demonstrated itself utterly too juvenile and petulant to be a Majority Party. Ronald Reagan would have NOTHING but contempt for the scum in the current Conservative Establishment who scream the loudest about being his intellectual grandchildren.

Here is the Senate vote on 2611 As Amended; Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 It passed the Senate 62-36 with two Dems not voting. The Reps voted 32-23 against it. The four Dems who voted against it included three who were up for reelection.

What vote are you alluding to?

But that right, God forbid the Alway Angry about Everything crowd actually put anything issue into context or actually think about the totality of the issue or what discuss what is actually going on in DC. Frankly this odd habit of the Purists, such as Luntz, of NEVER ever being able to actually find ANYTHING to attack the Democrats on EVER makes us wonder which side they REALLY are on. They seem to spend all their time doing the Democrats PR dirty work for them. Rather strange behavior from people claiming to be "Real Conservatives". Their fire is NEVER directed at anyone but their own political allies. Frankly with friends like this, who needs enemies. To their doctrine of total Dogmatic Political Purity linked to their pathetic need to constantly sniping their own political allies in the back rather then EVER attack the Democrats on ANY issue is WAY more important t then actually MOVING what they claim to be their political agenda forward. Frankly Reagan, a supremely pragmatic politician would spit on all of these dogmatic purists.

Luntz is a Rep pollster. I guess you can't stand the truth. It doesn't fit your personal template as to what is wrong with the Rep party and why it lost both houses of Congress and six governorships in 2006. Luntz is providing constructive advice to the Reps. It is not his job to attack the Democrats. Essentially, he is saying we need to give the people a positive reason to vote for us and not reasons to vote against the Dems. The Dems changed their strategy this last time around including what they would do during the first 100 hours.

Utterly pathetic that this same collection of Dogmatic Purists constantly squeal about their "God" Reagan. The SAME Ronald Reagan who signed a REAL Illegals Amnesty. Doubled the Size of the Fed Govt in 8 years, Signed 2 Tax Hikes, Spent Record Fed Deficits, negotiated with the Mullahs of Iran, appointed a Liberal to the SC and ran away from the Muslim Terrorist threat./i>

Creating another phony strawman to justify your disjointed ramblings. Reagan had to plow the fields with the oxen God gave him. When he took office in 1981, the Dems controlled the House 242-192 and they retained control during his entire 8 years including reaching a high of 269-166 in the 98th Congress [1983-85]. Reagan's election helped the Reps regain control of the Senate in 1981, which they held until 1987 by margins of 6 to 8. Hence Reagan had to compromise to get anything done. He also knew how to use the bully pulpit. He made a mistake in signing Simpson-Mazzoli in 1986, which is why Ed Meese is dead set against the current Senate bill, i.e., he doesn't want to see us doing the same thing again and that is AMNESTY no matter how the politicians try to spin it with their back of the line path to citizenship.

Basically what Lutz et al want to do is IGNORE the best sustained economic performance ever, the successful war, ignore all the Conservative Judges and the thousands of other accomplishments and instead mindlessly fixate on the 30% of their personal political agenda that did NOT make it thru the DC Legislative buzz saw on it's very 1ST time around.

Another phony strawman and distortion of what Luntz is saying. You miss the very purpose of why Luntz wrote the article. FYI: Correct or not, most Americans don't view the war in Iraq as being a success.

Rather the Conservative Establishment would simply rather whine and bitch and cry endlessly that the world is not perfect and they did not get out of politics everything exactly the way they wanted and NOTHING that they did not want the very 1st Time it came around. Well Guess What. People with that sort of attitude better resign themselves to dying unhappy then. NO body gets ONLY 100% of ONLY what THEY want the second they want it in politics. NOBODY.

Another phony strawman. Obviously, you are not a conservative and make this stuff up out of whole cloth.

So after about 70 years being out of power in one branch or the other the Conservatives were exactly 1 SC Justice away from FINALLY regaining control of all three branches of the US Govt and the childish wretches of the Worst Generation pissed it all away in a fit of petulant because their personal political whimsy was not being enacted as fast as they felt it should be.

You have some perverted idea as to why the Reps lost control of Congress in 2006, i.e., conservatives did not show up to vote. That is not the reason why most incumbent Reps lost. If it were that easy, we could win the seats back in 2008. That is not going to happen.

Frankly the modern "Conservative" Establishment has demonstrated itself utterly too juvenile and petulant to be a Majority Party. Ronald Reagan would have NOTHING but contempt for the scum in the current Conservative Establishment who scream the loudest about being his intellectual grandchildren.

Just reading the content of your rant above shows who is really "too juvenile and petulant." When you lose elections, you should stop pointing figures at people within your own party and rationalizing why you lost. You need to buckle up your chinstrap and get ready for the next game. If you don't like the team you are on, find another one.