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To: skaterboy
Of course it's a free country and people can vote for who they want.

But I'm also free to call them retards for allowing that woman into power because Giuliani doesn't think gays should be outlawed (like I should give a crap what those people do in their own homes).

I'm a conservative, i.e. I don't want government telling me what to do, or anyone else what they should do in their own homes. If people don't like Rudy's social policies, do they think allowing Hillary (whose social positions are far worse) to win in order to "send a message" will achieve ANYthing?

13 posted on 02/24/2007 10:46:10 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, Bostonian, Bush supporter, atheist, pro-lifer)
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To: Darkwolf377

Yes it sends the message, "I am tired of being burned by the GOP so I am going to set my self on fire".


18 posted on 02/24/2007 10:49:21 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Darkwolf377

"But I'm also free to call them retards for allowing that woman into power because Giuliani doesn't think gays should be outlawed"

If you think that's the big reason for people opposing rudy, then you may want to watch the names you're slinging, mr. pot.

Reasons to oppose rudy:
1. Pro illegal immigration - fought to maintain NY as a 'sanctuary city' against the federal government.
2. Pro roe v wade, even pro public funding of abortions.
3. Gun grabber. Proposed federal 'assault weapons' ban. Wants federal handgun licensing - and I'm sure which will be as strict as NY city, which means it will be next to impossible to get a handgun.
4. Pro campaign finance reform.
5. Has a pattern as a statist willing to violate the first amendment - lost several court cases on those grounds while mayor of NY city

Then there's the other little things - kerik, questionable consulting things, "one in a million" draft exemption based on his absolute unique abilities as a law clerk, etc etc etc.

Rudy is one of thes candidate the MSM wants the republicans to run. You should be asking yourself why that is.


22 posted on 02/24/2007 10:53:57 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: Darkwolf377
You say that you're a conservative. Why would any conservative vote for a liberal?

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion SupportsOpposed NY ban Supports Supports Opposes
Roe v. Wade Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes

Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports


26 posted on 02/24/2007 10:58:00 PM PST by B4Ranch (You're in America now. Here we speak English.)
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To: Darkwolf377
If people don't like Rudy's social policies, do they think allowing Hillary (whose social positions are far worse) to win in order to "send a message" will achieve ANYthing?

They are the exact same social policies. They always were.

Why should people waste the time to vote for a Xlinton clone with a big R?
59 posted on 02/25/2007 9:32:42 AM PST by George W. Bush
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